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I have been playing with OPS now for about 4 months with the aim of puting it forward as part of our new platform for future forms based development. Our current web site is a simple 3 frame design with a menu on the left, a small info frame bottom left, and interactive forms taking most of the web page. (something like the orbeon demo site). I realise orbeon use a portal/portlet solution for this demo site, but state that this solution is for demo purposes only and not fast?robust? for production use. I like the idea of aggregating xml sources (menu + content) and then using CSS + xslt (epilogue.xpl?) to create the pages. To me this would be the simplest way to achieve this without resorting to other products (i would like to keep the number of products/technologies to a minimum) Are there any demos that do this? Regards, Franco [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>. Franco Pace Senior Software Engineer Lawpoint Thomson Legal & Regulatory Limited (ABN 64 058 914 668) PH: 61 2 92394963 FAX: none EMAIL: [hidden email] WEB: www.lawpoint.com.au www.thomson.com.au -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws |
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Hi Franco,
Our web site (http://www.orbeon.com) runs on top of PresentationServer and we are doing some of the things you mention in your email. You can download the source used for our site from the URL below; look for Orbeon.com 1.2. This is a pretty old snapshot and I am not sure it will run out of the box on the latest versions of PresentationServer. But it will give you an idea of how to do this type of site, and of course let us know if you have any problem with that snapshot as we might need to update it. http://forge.objectweb.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=168 Alex On 12/6/05, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > I have been playing with OPS now for about 4 months with the aim of puting it forward as part of our new platform for > future forms based development. Our current web site is a simple 3 frame design with a menu on the left, a small info frame bottom left, > and interactive forms taking most of the web page. (something like the orbeon demo site). I realise orbeon use a portal/portlet solution for > this demo site, but state that this solution is for demo purposes only and not fast?robust? for production use. > I like the idea of aggregating xml sources (menu + content) and then using CSS + xslt (epilogue.xpl?) to create the pages. To me this would > be the simplest way to achieve this without resorting to other products (i would like to keep the number of products/technologies to a minimum) > > Are there any demos that do this? > > Regards, > Franco > > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>. > Franco Pace > Senior Software Engineer > Lawpoint > Thomson Legal & Regulatory Limited (ABN 64 058 914 668) > PH: 61 2 92394963 FAX: none > EMAIL: [hidden email] > WEB: www.lawpoint.com.au www.thomson.com.au > > > > > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws > > > -- Blog (XML, Web apps, Open Source): http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws
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Thanks Alex,
I'll give it a try. Franco -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Alessandro Vernet Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 12:46 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [ops-users] web layout suggestions Hi Franco, Our web site (http://www.orbeon.com) runs on top of PresentationServer and we are doing some of the things you mention in your email. You can download the source used for our site from the URL below; look for Orbeon.com 1.2. This is a pretty old snapshot and I am not sure it will run out of the box on the latest versions of PresentationServer. But it will give you an idea of how to do this type of site, and of course let us know if you have any problem with that snapshot as we might need to update it. http://forge.objectweb.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=168 Alex On 12/6/05, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > I have been playing with OPS now for about 4 months with the aim of puting it forward as part of our new platform for > future forms based development. Our current web site is a simple 3 frame design with a menu on the left, a small info frame bottom left, > and interactive forms taking most of the web page. (something like the orbeon demo site). I realise orbeon use a portal/portlet solution for > this demo site, but state that this solution is for demo purposes only and not fast?robust? for production use. > I like the idea of aggregating xml sources (menu + content) and then using CSS + xslt (epilogue.xpl?) to create the pages. To me this would > be the simplest way to achieve this without resorting to other products (i would like to keep the number of products/technologies to a minimum) > > Are there any demos that do this? > > Regards, > Franco > > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>. > Franco Pace > Senior Software Engineer > Lawpoint > Thomson Legal & Regulatory Limited (ABN 64 058 914 668) > PH: 61 2 92394963 FAX: none > EMAIL: [hidden email] > WEB: www.lawpoint.com.au www.thomson.com.au > > > > > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws > > > -- Blog (XML, Web apps, Open Source): http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws |
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Also, now that there is an XInclude processor (if you are using a 3.0
beta) XInclude could be used instead of XSLT to perform aggregation, by using user-defined inputs: http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/processors-xinclude#user-defined Your "config" input would get the main template, and then user-defined input would get content for your menus, side-bars, etc., dynamically or statically generated. Just a suggestion :-) -Erik Alessandro Vernet wrote: > Hi Franco, > > Our web site (http://www.orbeon.com) runs on top of PresentationServer > and we are doing some of the things you mention in your email. You can > download the source used for our site from the URL below; look for > Orbeon.com 1.2. This is a pretty old snapshot and I am not sure it > will run out of the box on the latest versions of PresentationServer. > But it will give you an idea of how to do this type of site, and of > course let us know if you have any problem with that snapshot as we > might need to update it. > > http://forge.objectweb.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=168 > > Alex > > On 12/6/05, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>Hi, >>I have been playing with OPS now for about 4 months with the aim of puting it forward as part of our new platform for >>future forms based development. Our current web site is a simple 3 frame design with a menu on the left, a small info frame bottom left, >>and interactive forms taking most of the web page. (something like the orbeon demo site). I realise orbeon use a portal/portlet solution for >>this demo site, but state that this solution is for demo purposes only and not fast?robust? for production use. >>I like the idea of aggregating xml sources (menu + content) and then using CSS + xslt (epilogue.xpl?) to create the pages. To me this would >>be the simplest way to achieve this without resorting to other products (i would like to keep the number of products/technologies to a minimum) >> >>Are there any demos that do this? >> >>Regards, >>Franco >> >>[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>. >>Franco Pace >>Senior Software Engineer >>Lawpoint >>Thomson Legal & Regulatory Limited (ABN 64 058 914 668) >>PH: 61 2 92394963 FAX: none >>EMAIL: [hidden email] >>WEB: www.lawpoint.com.au www.thomson.com.au >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. >>To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws >> >> >> > > > > -- > Blog (XML, Web apps, Open Source): http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws |
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Thanks Erik,
Yes using OPS 3.0 Beta2. That does makes sense. I'll try it. Thanks, Franco -----Original Message----- From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:34 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [ops-users] web layout suggestions Also, now that there is an XInclude processor (if you are using a 3.0 beta) XInclude could be used instead of XSLT to perform aggregation, by using user-defined inputs: http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/processors-xinclude#user-defined Your "config" input would get the main template, and then user-defined input would get content for your menus, side-bars, etc., dynamically or statically generated. Just a suggestion :-) -Erik Alessandro Vernet wrote: > Hi Franco, > > Our web site (http://www.orbeon.com) runs on top of PresentationServer > and we are doing some of the things you mention in your email. You can > download the source used for our site from the URL below; look for > Orbeon.com 1.2. This is a pretty old snapshot and I am not sure it > will run out of the box on the latest versions of PresentationServer. > But it will give you an idea of how to do this type of site, and of > course let us know if you have any problem with that snapshot as we > might need to update it. > > http://forge.objectweb.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=168 > > Alex > > On 12/6/05, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>Hi, >>I have been playing with OPS now for about 4 months with the aim of puting it forward as part of our new platform for >>future forms based development. Our current web site is a simple 3 frame design with a menu on the left, a small info frame bottom left, >>and interactive forms taking most of the web page. (something like the orbeon demo site). I realise orbeon use a portal/portlet solution for >>this demo site, but state that this solution is for demo purposes only and not fast?robust? for production use. >>I like the idea of aggregating xml sources (menu + content) and then using CSS + xslt (epilogue.xpl?) to create the pages. To me this would >>be the simplest way to achieve this without resorting to other products (i would like to keep the number of products/technologies to a minimum) >> >>Are there any demos that do this? >> >>Regards, >>Franco >> >>[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>. >>Franco Pace >>Senior Software Engineer >>Lawpoint >>Thomson Legal & Regulatory Limited (ABN 64 058 914 668) >>PH: 61 2 92394963 FAX: none >>EMAIL: [hidden email] >>WEB: www.lawpoint.com.au www.thomson.com.au >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. >>To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws >> >> >> > > > > -- > Blog (XML, Web apps, Open Source): http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws |
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And now you can try it with the latest and greatest beta 4.
-Erik [hidden email] wrote: > Thanks Erik, > Yes using OPS 3.0 Beta2. That does makes sense. > I'll try it. > > Thanks, > Franco > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez > Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2005 22:34 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [ops-users] web layout suggestions > > > Also, now that there is an XInclude processor (if you are using a 3.0 > beta) XInclude could be used instead of XSLT to perform aggregation, by > using user-defined inputs: > > http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/processors-xinclude#user-defined > > Your "config" input would get the main template, and then user-defined > input would get content for your menus, side-bars, etc., dynamically or > statically generated. > > Just a suggestion :-) > > -Erik > > Alessandro Vernet wrote: > >>Hi Franco, >> >>Our web site (http://www.orbeon.com) runs on top of PresentationServer >>and we are doing some of the things you mention in your email. You can >>download the source used for our site from the URL below; look for >>Orbeon.com 1.2. This is a pretty old snapshot and I am not sure it >>will run out of the box on the latest versions of PresentationServer. >>But it will give you an idea of how to do this type of site, and of >>course let us know if you have any problem with that snapshot as we >>might need to update it. >> >>http://forge.objectweb.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=168 >> >>Alex >> >>On 12/6/05, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>I have been playing with OPS now for about 4 months with the aim of puting it forward as part of our new platform for >>>future forms based development. Our current web site is a simple 3 frame design with a menu on the left, a small info frame bottom left, >>>and interactive forms taking most of the web page. (something like the orbeon demo site). I realise orbeon use a portal/portlet solution for >>>this demo site, but state that this solution is for demo purposes only and not fast?robust? for production use. >>>I like the idea of aggregating xml sources (menu + content) and then using CSS + xslt (epilogue.xpl?) to create the pages. To me this would >>>be the simplest way to achieve this without resorting to other products (i would like to keep the number of products/technologies to a minimum) >>> >>>Are there any demos that do this? >>> >>>Regards, >>>Franco >>> >>>[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>. >>>Franco Pace >>>Senior Software Engineer >>>Lawpoint >>>Thomson Legal & Regulatory Limited (ABN 64 058 914 668) >>>PH: 61 2 92394963 FAX: none >>>EMAIL: [hidden email] >>>WEB: www.lawpoint.com.au www.thomson.com.au >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. >>>To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>>For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>>ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>Blog (XML, Web apps, Open Source): http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >>-- >>You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. >>To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help ObjectWeb mailing lists service home page: http://www.objectweb.org/wws |
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