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Colin Seaman

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Hi Guys,

I want to apply some templates to my Xforms; what's the best way to do
this? XSLT?

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Colin Seaman
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Duane Gran-2

Re: templating

Colin,

Maybe you could elaborate a little on what you want to accomplish. I
have an application which uses a template system to do the following:

* Group elements and attributes under widget:tab controls
* Control the order of elements (and permit re-ordering)
* Manage the label, help and alert text

The design is still in a bit of flux, but it makes use of XSL and
XUpdate. If this is similar to what you want to accomplish I'm happy
to share examples with you.

Duane Gran

On Oct 3, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Colin Seaman wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I want to apply some templates to my Xforms; what's the best way to
> do this? XSLT?
>
> --
> Colin Seaman
> Senior Developer
> Tradocs Ltd,
> Tower Point,
> 44 North Road,
> Brighton,
> BN1 1YR
>
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Colin Seaman

Re: templating

Hi Duane,

Currently my XForms are just in a raw, linear format down the page. I want to position form elements all about the page, but I don't want to have to code a HTML layout in each XForm page. I'm comfortable with both XSL and XSLT, but was rather unsure whether I could get away with just using a stylesheet for positioning without any HTML coding in the XForms. I suspect not.

Colin Seaman
Senior Developer
 
Tradocs Ltd,
Tower Point,
44 North Road,
Brighton,
BN1 1YR

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Duane Gran wrote:

Colin,

Maybe you could elaborate a little on what you want to accomplish. I have an application which uses a template system to do the following:

* Group elements and attributes under widget:tab controls
* Control the order of elements (and permit re-ordering)
* Manage the label, help and alert text

The design is still in a bit of flux, but it makes use of XSL and XUpdate. If this is similar to what you want to accomplish I'm happy to share examples with you.

Duane Gran

On Oct 3, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Colin Seaman wrote:

Hi Guys,

I want to apply some templates to my Xforms; what's the best way to do this? XSLT?

--Colin Seaman
Senior Developer
Tradocs Ltd,
Tower Point,
44 North Road,
Brighton,
BN1 1YR

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skype:     colin,seaman
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Duane Gran-2

Re: templating

Colin,

I see more what you mean. I think you are referring to a template for laying out controls on the page, whereas what I'm using is a template for the instance itself. A truly robust solution would probably involve tight integration with a framework, such as tapestry. In fact, that would make for a very interesting project.

Duane

On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Colin Seaman wrote:

Hi Duane,

Currently my XForms are just in a raw, linear format down the page. I want to position form elements all about the page, but I don't want to have to code a HTML layout in each XForm page. I'm comfortable with both XSL and XSLT, but was rather unsure whether I could get away with just using a stylesheet for positioning without any HTML coding in the XForms. I suspect not.
Colin Seaman
Senior Developer
 
Tradocs Ltd,
Tower Point,
44 North Road,
Brighton,
BN1 1YR

email:     [hidden email]
skype:     colin,seaman
telephone: 0870-1417031
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Duane Gran wrote:
Colin,

Maybe you could elaborate a little on what you want to accomplish. I have an application which uses a template system to do the following:

* Group elements and attributes under widget:tab controls
* Control the order of elements (and permit re-ordering)
* Manage the label, help and alert text

The design is still in a bit of flux, but it makes use of XSL and XUpdate. If this is similar to what you want to accomplish I'm happy to share examples with you.

Duane Gran

On Oct 3, 2006, at 7:24 AM, Colin Seaman wrote:

Hi Guys,

I want to apply some templates to my Xforms; what's the best way to do this? XSLT?

--Colin Seaman
Senior Developer
Tradocs Ltd,
Tower Point,
44 North Road,
Brighton,
BN1 1YR

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skype:     colin,seaman
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Henrik Pettersen

Re: templating

In reply to this post by Colin Seaman

Colin,

have a look here:
http://mail-archive.objectweb.org/ops-users/2006-08/msg00628.html

Hope that helps.

Henrik

On 10/3/06, Colin Seaman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I want to apply some templates to my Xforms; what's the best way to do
> this? XSLT?
>
> --
> Colin Seaman
> Senior Developer
>
> Tradocs Ltd,
> Tower Point,
> 44 North Road,
> Brighton,
> BN1 1YR
>
> email: [hidden email]
> skype: colin,seaman
> telephone: 0870-1417031
> website: http://www.tradocs.net
>
> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential
> and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to
> whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in
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Erik Bruchez

Re: templating

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In reply to this post by Colin Seaman

Colin,

> Currently my XForms are just in a raw, linear format down the page. I
> want to position form elements all about the page, but I don't want to
> have to code a HTML layout in each XForm page. I'm comfortable with
> both XSL and XSLT, but was rather unsure whether I could get away with
> just using a stylesheet for positioning without any HTML coding in the
> XForms. I suspect not.

I can only provide very generic answers, but the truth is that coming up
with a generic layout mechanism, whatever language you write it in, is
difficult. But you should certainly be able to accomplish a lot with
XSLT. First ask yourself how you would like to write the XForms ideally,
then what you would like the result to look like in XHTML, and then try
to bridge the gap with code. You may reach the conclusion that it is
feasible, or that you need for example to provide more hints in the
XForms, etc.

-Erik

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