is it compatible with Sun Java System Application Server

I need to know urgently if it can run on "Sun Java System Application Server " which is supplied in Sun Studio Creator, can i combine them ? if not please suggest some IDE that is as sophisticated as that



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 > I need to know urgently if it can run on "Sun Java System
 > Application Server " which is supplied in Sun Studio Creator, can i
 > combine them ?

In theory Orbeon Forms (gotta use the new name now!) will run within
any compliant Servlet container.

In practice, there are sometimes issues due to the mess that is Java
classloading and JAR conflicts.

This said, we haven't tried the Sun Application Server ourselves, so
we cannot tell you for sure whether it runs as is or not. The best
thing is for you to give it a try: it's just a matter of deploying the
OPS 3.5 M1 WAR file and checking whether the examples are working.

 > if not please suggest some IDE that is as sophisticated as that

Eclipse? IntelliJ?

   http://www.eclipse.org/
   http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

Note that to work with Orbeon Forms, you usually don't need a Java IDE
or a full-fledged application server. What you really need is an XML
editor and a simple Servlet container.

-Erik

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The thing is I need to implement a workflow web application system, so I thought
JSF is a great idea to use, then I found sun creator an easy tool that we could
use, especially that two of my team members studied business so they don't have
a good knowledge in programming, therefore I chose Sun creator for them to
easily develop. Now we want to integrate the concept of Xforms in it, and OPS
seemed a great tool to be used. I'm not sure if we can integrate Xforms with the
pages!
So now what do u suggest?


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From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [ops-users] is it compatible with Sun Java System Application
Server

[hidden email] wrote:

 > I need to know urgently if it can run on "Sun Java System  > Application
Server " which is supplied in Sun Studio Creator, can i  > combine them ?

In theory Orbeon Forms (gotta use the new name now!) will run within any
compliant Servlet container.

In practice, there are sometimes issues due to the mess that is Java
classloading and JAR conflicts.

This said, we haven't tried the Sun Application Server ourselves, so we cannot
tell you for sure whether it runs as is or not. The best thing is for you to
give it a try: it's just a matter of deploying the OPS 3.5 M1 WAR file and
checking whether the examples are working.

 > if not please suggest some IDE that is as sophisticated as that

Eclipse? IntelliJ?

   http://www.eclipse.org/
   http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

Note that to work with Orbeon Forms, you usually don't need a Java IDE or a
full-fledged application server. What you really need is an XML editor and a
simple Servlet container.

-Erik

--
Orbeon - XForms Everywhere:
http://www.orbeon.com/blog/




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Hi Imane,

I have used Sun's Studio Creator and Orbeon Forms - but never together.
 
(Note that when you say 'Sun Java Application Server' I think you mean the server (sort of like Tomcat) rather than the development environment (Studio Creator).)

Personally, I would not attempt to combine JSF and XForms in one application.  JSF and XForms provide different ways of solving some of the same problems, both have a lifecycle of their own and both have ways of passing data around to the back-end.  If you were to use XForms in Studio Creator you would have to NOT use most of the parts of Creator that make it nice.

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In addition to what John mentioned, and just so that this is clear: you
won't see the Orbeon Forms XForms components appear in the graphical
editor of Studio Creator.

Orbeon Forms and XForms really focus on web forms, and they are great
especially if you want to deal with form data in XML format, and if you
don't want to write your user interface logic with a scripting language
or a language like Java. Instead, you use declarative XForms events and
actions to provide dynamic behavior to your user interface. Although
Orbeon Forms is written in Java, for most applications you don't need to
write any Java code at all.

JavaServer Faces also allows you to build forms but it is a more generic
UI component system. It is very much tied to the Java platform, and it
is very unlikely that you will use JSF without writing Java code as well.

-Erik

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