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I installed orbeon on tomcat 5 (also on tomcat 6) and everything works fine out of the box. Orbeon is installed on a WinXP pc. In our network I can connect to this pc and run orbeon and all the example applications, etc. without any problems. So far so good (good == great!) When I log in from my home to the orbeon-pc at my office, some parts will not work: Form Builder, sandboxes, Government Forms and XForms Controls won't work. From my home all examples work on www.orbeon.com At my office I even switched off our external firewall and the windows firewall on the orbeon-pc, but still cannot run (all) the examples from my home pc. One difference between my office and www.orbeon.com is that at the office we are using tomcat and things go through port 8080 and i suppose on orbeon.com they pass through port 80. I cannot see why that would not work? Please some hints? Have to do a presentation to a client on june 8th and it would be nice to do that through internet connection. Thanx in advance. Rui Rosado |
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Hi, On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:25 AM, RuiRosado wrote: > > Hi all, > > I installed orbeon on tomcat 5 (also on tomcat 6) and everything > works fine > out of the box. Orbeon is installed on a WinXP pc. In our network I > can > connect to this pc and run orbeon and all the example applications, > etc. > without any problems. So far so good (good == great!) > When I log in from my home to the orbeon-pc at my office, some > parts will mean that the server is only available on your intranet? > not work: Form Builder, sandboxes, Government Forms and XForms > Controls > won't work. > From my home all examples work on www.orbeon.com > At my office I even switched off our external firewall and the windows > firewall on the orbeon-pc, but still cannot run (all) the examples > from my > home pc. > One difference between my office and www.orbeon.com is that at the > office we > are using tomcat and things go through port 8080 and i suppose on > orbeon.com > they pass through port 80. open or block the port, but not on the software. > I cannot see why that would not work? > > Please some hints? Have to do a presentation to a client on june > 8th and it > would be nice to do that through internet connection. I think I need a hint about how your network is configured, and if the server has a public IP address. Cheers, Hank > > Thanx in advance. > Rui Rosado > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/intranet-vs.- > internet-tp23852455p23852455.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws NEES@UCSB Institute for Crustal Studies, University of California, Santa Barbara 805-893-8042 -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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Hi Rui,
In addition to the comments Hank already made, I would check: 1) If you see any error when accessing your app remotely. Using Firefox with Firebug enabled, check for JavaScript errors, and files the browser cannot load (in the Net tab). 2) Check on the server if there are any error in orbeon.log when you connect to the server remotely. You'll let us know how it goes! Alex |
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Hi Hank,
Thanx for your suggestions. The situation is as follows: At the client I have a win2k3 server where I installed tomcat 5.5 and orbeon. Servers name is Orion. On the internal network (192.168.10.*) everybody (about 25 PCs) can run all the examples (http://orion:8080/orbeon/xforms-calculator, etc.) plus some stuff I am developing for them. On this intranet they can also run the bookcast example and the government forms. I can also see the forms we are developing in Forms Builder (on any pc in the network), etc. This office also has an external address in DNS, that points to the office, and the 8080 port is routed to Orion (the Trend Micro anti-virus firewall passes port 8080 too, etc.) From the outside I can reach this server, and can run almost all the examples (apart from government forms, forms builder, xforms-controls, sandboxes). I simulated this situation so that you could also check it if you want: I installed a server at my office (in this case a Win XP Pro pc) with orbeon. Internally we can all run everything. If you would run from an external PC you will get the orbeon error screen. It would be nice if you would not get it, then I would know that my own PC is not OK... ;-)) Please try: http://kantoor.rosado.nl:8080/orbeon/ I will keep you informed, and will share a solution if I find some. Cheers, Rui
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Hi Alessandro,
Yes, I will do that this weekend and will keep the list informed of my findings. In the meantime I set up the same situation at my office, and if you would have some time spare, please look at: http://kantoor.rosado.nl:8080/orbeon/ If everything is like I told, then you will get an error page if you run e.g. government forms. I will keep you informed. Thanx and cheers, Rui
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Re: Re: intranet vs. internet
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If I may so rudely top post ;) Thanks for the notes. I'm just back from a graduation and catching up. I notice when I ran the government forms from the URL you provided, that I get the "Connection refused: connect" error. In the stack trace ("Details") I see that error occurred on the XML element: <xforms:instance id="resources-instance" src="/forms/service/resources/DMV-14/en" xxforms:readonly="false"/> and that the Resource URL is http://kantoor.rosado.nl:8080/orbeon/forms/service/resources/DMV-14/en and that the Description of the error is: reading external instance dispatching XForms event event → xforms-link-exception target id → resources-model dispatching XForms event event → xforms-model-construct target id → resources-model initializing XForms containing document So it seems that that the server, when attempting to initialize the XForms model, was unable to connect on the url above, which initially, I would say means the server cannot connect to "itself." That is, the model construct is performed on the server, not on the client, although I notice that the server does not attempt to connect to "localhost" I suspect, that when you connect to the server from your intranet, the Resource URL is http://192.168..... As a "work around" would you try putting the full intranet url in the src attribute: <xforms:instance id="resources-instance" src="http://localhost:8080/forms/service/resources/DMV-14/en" xxforms:readonly="false"/> Cheers, Hank > Hi Hank, > > Thanx for your suggestions. > The situation is as follows: > > At the client I have a win2k3 server where I installed tomcat 5.5 and > orbeon. Servers name is Orion. > On the internal network (192.168.10.*) everybody (about 25 PCs) can run > all > the examples (http://orion:8080/orbeon/xforms-calculator, etc.) plus some > stuff I am developing for them. > On this intranet they can also run the bookcast example and the government > forms. > I can also see the forms we are developing in Forms Builder (on any pc in > the network), etc. > > This office also has an external address in DNS, that points to the > office, > and the 8080 port is routed to Orion (the Trend Micro anti-virus firewall > passes port 8080 too, etc.) > From the outside I can reach this server, and can run almost all the > examples (apart from government forms, forms builder, xforms-controls, > sandboxes). > > I simulated this situation so that you could also check it if you want: > > I installed a server at my office (in this case a Win XP Pro pc) with > orbeon. Internally we can all run everything. If you would run from an > external PC you will get the orbeon error screen. It would be nice if you > would not get it, then I would know that my own PC is not OK... ;-)) > > Please try: http://kantoor.rosado.nl:8080/orbeon/ > > I will keep you informed, and will share a solution if I find some. > > Cheers, > Rui > > > Hank Ratzesberger wrote: >> >> >> Hi, >> >> On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:25 AM, RuiRosado wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I installed orbeon on tomcat 5 (also on tomcat 6) and everything >>> works fine >>> out of the box. Orbeon is installed on a WinXP pc. In our network I >>> can >>> connect to this pc and run orbeon and all the example applications, >>> etc. >>> without any problems. So far so good (good == great!) >>> When I log in from my home to the orbeon-pc at my office, some >>> parts will >> >> Do you log in through a VPN or desktop sharing software? Does this >> mean that the server is only available on your intranet? >> >> >>> not work: Form Builder, sandboxes, Government Forms and XForms >>> Controls >>> won't work. >>> From my home all examples work on www.orbeon.com >>> At my office I even switched off our external firewall and the windows >>> firewall on the orbeon-pc, but still cannot run (all) the examples >>> from my >>> home pc. >>> One difference between my office and www.orbeon.com is that at the >>> office we >>> are using tomcat and things go through port 8080 and i suppose on >>> orbeon.com >>> they pass through port 80. >> >> This should only be an issue if a router or firewall is configured to >> open or block the port, but not on the software. >> >>> I cannot see why that would not work? >>> >>> Please some hints? Have to do a presentation to a client on june >>> 8th and it >>> would be nice to do that through internet connection. >> >> I think I need a hint about how your network is configured, and >> if the server has a public IP address. >> >> Cheers, >> Hank >> >>> >>> Thanx in advance. >>> Rui Rosado >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/intranet-vs.- >>> internet-tp23852455p23852455.html >>> Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >>> mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> Hank Ratzesberger >> NEES@UCSB >> Institute for Crustal Studies, >> University of California, Santa Barbara >> 805-893-8042 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >> mailing >> list. >> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/intranet-vs.-internet-tp23852455p23899263.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. 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Thanx very much for the tip, Hank.
Indeed the server was not recognising itself from the "inside". So I created hosts in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc on the server, and added: 127.0.0.1 kantoor.rosado.nl Now everything works fine. I will solve this in DNS later... Pfff ... now I am confident for my presentation of tonight! Thank you again. Cheers, Rui
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Good news and good luck! --Hank On Jun 8, 2009, at 12:13 AM, RuiRosado wrote: > > Thanx very much for the tip, Hank. > Indeed the server was not recognising itself from the "inside". > So I created hosts in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc on the > server, and > added: > > 127.0.0.1 kantoor.rosado.nl > > Now everything works fine. > I will solve this in DNS later... > Pfff ... now I am confident for my presentation of tonight! > > Thank you again. > Cheers, > Rui > > > Hank Ratzesberger wrote: >> >> >> If I may so rudely top post ;) >> >> Thanks for the notes. I'm just back from a graduation and >> catching up. >> >> I notice when I ran the government forms from the URL >> you provided, that I get the "Connection refused: connect" >> error. In the stack trace ("Details") I see that error >> occurred on the XML element: >> >> <xforms:instance id="resources-instance" >> src="/forms/service/resources/DMV-14/en" xxforms:readonly="false"/> >> >> and that the Resource URL is >> >> http://kantoor.rosado.nl:8080/orbeon/forms/service/resources/ >> DMV-14/en >> >> and that the Description of the error is: >> >> reading external instance dispatching XForms event >> event → xforms-link-exception target id → resources-model >> dispatching XForms event event → xforms-model-construct >> target id → resources-model initializing XForms containing >> document >> >> So it seems that that the server, when attempting to >> initialize the XForms model, was unable to connect on >> the url above, which initially, I would say means the >> server cannot connect to "itself." That is, the >> model construct is performed on the server, not on >> the client, although I notice that the server does >> not attempt to connect to "localhost" >> >> I suspect, that when you connect to the server from >> your intranet, the Resource URL is http://192.168..... >> >> As a "work around" would you try putting the full >> intranet url in the src attribute: >> >> <xforms:instance >> id="resources-instance" >> src="http://localhost:8080/forms/service/resources/DMV-14/en" >> xxforms:readonly="false"/> >> >> Cheers, >> Hank >> >> >> >>> Hi Hank, >>> >>> Thanx for your suggestions. >>> The situation is as follows: >>> >>> At the client I have a win2k3 server where I installed tomcat 5.5 >>> and >>> orbeon. Servers name is Orion. >>> On the internal network (192.168.10.*) everybody (about 25 PCs) >>> can run >>> all >>> the examples (http://orion:8080/orbeon/xforms-calculator, etc.) >>> plus some >>> stuff I am developing for them. >>> On this intranet they can also run the bookcast example and the >>> government >>> forms. >>> I can also see the forms we are developing in Forms Builder (on >>> any pc in >>> the network), etc. >>> >>> This office also has an external address in DNS, that points to the >>> office, >>> and the 8080 port is routed to Orion (the Trend Micro anti-virus >>> firewall >>> passes port 8080 too, etc.) >>> From the outside I can reach this server, and can run almost all the >>> examples (apart from government forms, forms builder, xforms- >>> controls, >>> sandboxes). >>> >>> I simulated this situation so that you could also check it if you >>> want: >>> >>> I installed a server at my office (in this case a Win XP Pro pc) >>> with >>> orbeon. Internally we can all run everything. If you would run >>> from an >>> external PC you will get the orbeon error screen. It would be >>> nice if you >>> would not get it, then I would know that my own PC is not OK... ;-)) >>> >>> Please try: http://kantoor.rosado.nl:8080/orbeon/ >>> >>> I will keep you informed, and will share a solution if I find some. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Rui >>> >>> >>> Hank Ratzesberger wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:25 AM, RuiRosado wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I installed orbeon on tomcat 5 (also on tomcat 6) and everything >>>>> works fine >>>>> out of the box. Orbeon is installed on a WinXP pc. In our >>>>> network I >>>>> can >>>>> connect to this pc and run orbeon and all the example >>>>> applications, >>>>> etc. >>>>> without any problems. So far so good (good == great!) >>>>> When I log in from my home to the orbeon-pc at my office, some >>>>> parts will >>>> >>>> Do you log in through a VPN or desktop sharing software? Does this >>>> mean that the server is only available on your intranet? >>>> >>>> >>>>> not work: Form Builder, sandboxes, Government Forms and XForms >>>>> Controls >>>>> won't work. >>>>> From my home all examples work on www.orbeon.com >>>>> At my office I even switched off our external firewall and the >>>>> windows >>>>> firewall on the orbeon-pc, but still cannot run (all) the examples >>>>> from my >>>>> home pc. >>>>> One difference between my office and www.orbeon.com is that at the >>>>> office we >>>>> are using tomcat and things go through port 8080 and i suppose on >>>>> orbeon.com >>>>> they pass through port 80. >>>> >>>> This should only be an issue if a router or firewall is >>>> configured to >>>> open or block the port, but not on the software. >>>> >>>>> I cannot see why that would not work? >>>>> >>>>> Please some hints? Have to do a presentation to a client on june >>>>> 8th and it >>>>> would be nice to do that through internet connection. >>>> >>>> I think I need a hint about how your network is configured, and >>>> if the server has a public IP address. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Hank >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanx in advance. >>>>> Rui Rosado >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/intranet-vs.- >>>>> internet-tp23852455p23852455.html >>>>> Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at >>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >>>>> mailing list. >>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>>>> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>>>> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >>>> >>>> Hank Ratzesberger >>>> NEES@UCSB >>>> Institute for Crustal Studies, >>>> University of California, Santa Barbara >>>> 805-893-8042 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >>>> mailing >>>> list. >>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>>> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/intranet-vs.-internet-tp23852455p23899263.html >>> Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >> mailing >> list. >> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/intranet-vs.- > internet-tp23852455p23919286.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws NEES@UCSB Institute for Crustal Studies, University of California, Santa Barbara 805-893-8042 -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. 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Thank you Hank one more insightful response; great find! Alex |
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