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Nigel Harrison

We have been experimenting with OPS for a couple of months, and are now looking to deploy it in a 'real-ish' situation, to provide a small number of xml-based services for our clients.  To try to achieve this, I have a local installation of Tomcat 5.5.17, to which I have deployed OPS, by, broadly, following the instructions in a ops-users mailing list response from Erik Bruchez from 16th February, 2006.  Specifically, I have taken the following steps (in Windows XP Pro SP2):
  • Extracted the HEAD from cvsroot/ops at objectweb.org CVS site
  • Followed the build instructions in documentation (and from ops-users) to build a war file
  • Extracted the contents of the war file to a new directory
  • Removed the directories from this directory, as indicated in Erik's response on ops-users, namely:
  • xforms-jsp (and subdirectories)
  • WEB-INF/resources/examples
  • WEB-INF/resources/examples-portal
  • WEB-INF/resources/examples-standalone
  • WEB-INF/resources/init-database

(I left the WEB-INF/resources/context directory, partly because I wasn't sure what it did.)
  • Added a directory WEB-INF/resources/irs with some of our resources, and modified the page-flow.xml file in the WEB-INF/resources directory, to point to the new directory.
  • Copied the whole of this directory into the Tomcat webapps directory as a new ops subdirectory.
  • Started up Tomcat locally

As this stage, Tomcat reports the ops web-app is started (good), but when I open the browser (Firefox, although tried with IE too), I get the startup screen for the OPS examples portal (the one with the list of examples down the left-hand side, and 'Welcome to the OPS Examples' title).  Didn't I just remove this page?, I think.  But, I carry on regardless, and select Controls from under Must-See XForms from the menu on the left.  As if by magic, the XForms example with the tabs and many XForms controls comes up (!).  If I then click on the VIEW SOURCE link at the top of the page, an OPS error page comes up, with the message "Cannot read from file /examples/xforms/xforms-controls/example-descriptor-files.xml".  Well, that's a very reasonable message, because none of the files that make up the examples are there.  The question is, From where has it located the examples start-up screen, and the Controls XForms view?  And why does it not get the page flow details for our own pages?

I did suspect that, somehow, the browser's cache had interfered, but I cleared the cache completely, and get the same result.  It's obvious I'm missing something very simple, but, as always, the simplest things are the most frustrating ...


Nigel Harrison
LeSoftCo Limited
UK


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Re: Trying to build a 'real' deployment of OPS-based application, but failing somewhere!

Alessandro  Vernet
Administrator
Hi Nigel,

The list of examples displayed on the left in the "examples portal"
comes from examples/examples-list.xml. So it is quite surprising that
you would have that list displayed after you removed the whole
examples directory.

Could it be possible that you removed another 'examples' directory,
not the one used by Tomcat and the instance of PresentationServer you
are hitting?

Alex

On 7/5/06, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> We have been experimenting with OPS for a couple of months, and are now
> looking to deploy it in a 'real-ish' situation, to provide a small number of
> xml-based services for our clients.  To try to achieve this, I have a local
> installation of Tomcat 5.5.17, to which I have deployed OPS, by, broadly,
> following the instructions in a ops-users mailing list response from Erik
> Bruchez from 16th February, 2006.  Specifically, I have taken the following
> steps (in Windows XP Pro SP2):
>
>
> Extracted the HEAD from cvsroot/ops at objectweb.org CVS site
> Followed the build instructions in documentation (and from ops-users) to
> build a war file
> Extracted the contents of the war file to a new directory
> Removed the directories from this directory, as indicated in Erik's response
> on ops-users, namely:
>
> xforms-jsp (and subdirectories)
> WEB-INF/resources/examples
> WEB-INF/resources/examples-portal
> WEB-INF/resources/examples-standalone
> WEB-INF/resources/init-database
> (I left the WEB-INF/resources/context directory, partly because I wasn't
> sure what it did.)
>
>
> Added a directory WEB-INF/resources/irs with some of our resources, and
> modified the page-flow.xml file in the WEB-INF/resources directory, to point
> to the new directory.
> Copied the whole of this directory into the Tomcat webapps directory as a
> new ops subdirectory.
> Started up Tomcat locally
> As this stage, Tomcat reports the ops web-app is started (good), but when I
> open the browser (Firefox, although tried with IE too), I get the startup
> screen for the OPS examples portal (the one with the list of examples down
> the left-hand side, and 'Welcome to the OPS Examples' title).  Didn't I just
> remove this page?, I think.  But, I carry on regardless, and select Controls
> from under Must-See XForms from the menu on the left.  As if by magic, the
> XForms example with the tabs and many XForms controls comes up (!).  If I
> then click on the VIEW SOURCE link at the top of the page, an OPS error page
> comes up, with the message "Cannot read from file
> /examples/xforms/xforms-controls/example-descriptor-files.xml".
>  Well, that's a very reasonable message, because none of the files that make
> up the examples are there.  The question is, From where has it located the
> examples start-up screen, and the Controls XForms view?  And why does it not
> get the page flow details for our own pages?
>
> I did suspect that, somehow, the browser's cache had interfered, but I
> cleared the cache completely, and get the same result.  It's obvious I'm
> missing something very simple, but, as always, the simplest things are the
> most frustrating ...
>
>
> Nigel Harrison
>  LeSoftCo Limited
>  UK
>
>
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Re: Trying to build a 'real' deployment of OPS-based application, but failing somewhere!

Nigel Harrison

Alex:

Thanks for your reply.  I checked, and there is certainly no examples directory under WEB-INF/resources (although there is, both in the Eclipse workspace for the ops CVS, and in the directory I unzipped the war file to.  However, I have noticed this text in the Tomcat startup sequence (in the stdout):

Starting PresentationServer Release 3.0.1.200607031854
Initializing Resource Manager with: {org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMana
gerImplServletContext=org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContextFacade@14d1d41,
 oxf.resources.priority.2=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.ClassLoaderResourceManagerFac
tory, oxf.resources.factory=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.PriorityResourceManagerFact
ory, oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:\eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/
examples/web, oxf.resources.priority.3=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMa
nagerFactory, oxf.resources.priority.1=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.FilesystemResour
ceManagerFactory, oxf.resources.webapp.rootdir=/WEB-INF/resources}
IN CONFIGURE
cluster.journal.maxStore 65000
cluster.journal.shift 100
04-Jul-2006 18:36:56 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol start (98 %)
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init
INFO: JK: ajp13 listening on /0.0.0.0:8009
04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.server.JkMain start
INFO: Jk running ID=0 time=0/125  config=null
04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.storeconfig.StoreLoader load
INFO: Find registry server-registry.xml at classpath resource
04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
INFO: Server startup in 9906 ms

I just noticed the part of this in the 'Initializing Resource Manager with: ...' line that has the following "oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:\eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/" -- where is this coming from?  And how does the Resource Manager go about searching for resources?

I could just load the whole ops webapp directory into a running Tomcat on a proper (I mean, LInux, really) server, and not inside our LAN.  What do you think?

And, in case I wasn't clear in my last message, we like everything we see in OPS :-)

Regards

Nigel
examples/web

Nigel Harrison


[hidden email] wrote on 05/07/2006 20:47:09:

> Hi Nigel,
>
> The list of examples displayed on the left in the "examples portal"
> comes from examples/examples-list.xml. So it is quite surprising that
> you would have that list displayed after you removed the whole
> examples directory.
>
> Could it be possible that you removed another 'examples' directory,
> not the one used by Tomcat and the instance of PresentationServer you
> are hitting?
>
> Alex
>
> On 7/5/06, [hidden email] <Nigel_Harrison@lesoftco.
> co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > We have been experimenting with OPS for a couple of months, and are now
> > looking to deploy it in a 'real-ish' situation, to provide a smallnumber of
> > xml-based services for our clients.  To try to achieve this, I have a local
> > installation of Tomcat 5.5.17, to which I have deployed OPS, by, broadly,
> > following the instructions in a ops-users mailing list response from Erik
> > Bruchez from 16th February, 2006.  Specifically, I have taken the following
> > steps (in Windows XP Pro SP2):
> >
> >
> > Extracted the HEAD from cvsroot/ops at objectweb.org CVS site
> > Followed the build instructions in documentation (and from ops-users) to
> > build a war file
> > Extracted the contents of the war file to a new directory
> > Removed the directories from this directory, as indicated in Erik's response
> > on ops-users, namely:
> >
> > xforms-jsp (and subdirectories)
> > WEB-INF/resources/examples
> > WEB-INF/resources/examples-portal
> > WEB-INF/resources/examples-standalone
> > WEB-INF/resources/init-database
> > (I left the WEB-INF/resources/context directory, partly because I wasn't
> > sure what it did.)
> >
> >
> > Added a directory WEB-INF/resources/irs with some of our resources, and
> > modified the page-flow.xml file in the WEB-INF/resources directory, to point
> > to the new directory.
> > Copied the whole of this directory into the Tomcat webapps directory as a
> > new ops subdirectory.
> > Started up Tomcat locally
> > As this stage, Tomcat reports the ops web-app is started (good), but when I
> > open the browser (Firefox, although tried with IE too), I get the startup
> > screen for the OPS examples portal (the one with the list of examples down
> > the left-hand side, and 'Welcome to the OPS Examples' title).  Didn't I just
> > remove this page?, I think.  But, I carry on regardless, and select Controls
> > from under Must-See XForms from the menu on the left.  As if by magic, the
> > XForms example with the tabs and many XForms controls comes up (!).  If I
> > then click on the VIEW SOURCE link at the top of the page, an OPS error page
> > comes up, with the message "Cannot read from file
> > /examples/xforms/xforms-controls/example-descriptor-files.xml".
> >  Well, that's a very reasonable message, because none of the filesthat make
> > up the examples are there.  The question is, From where has it located the
> > examples start-up screen, and the Controls XForms view?  And why does it not
> > get the page flow details for our own pages?
> >
> > I did suspect that, somehow, the browser's cache had interfered, but I
> > cleared the cache completely, and get the same result.  It's obvious I'm
> > missing something very simple, but, as always, the simplest things are the
> > most frustrating ...
> >
> >
> > Nigel Harrison
> >  LeSoftCo Limited
> >  UK
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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Re: Trying to build a 'real' deployment of OPS-based application, but failing somewhere!

Erik Bruchez
Administrator
Nigel,

The resource manager configuration comes from web.xml. In there, you
will see some lines that configure a filesystem resource manager as
priority 1. Instead, comment that out, and uncomment the lines that
configure the webapp resources manager as priority 1 (instead of
priority 3 as is the case now).

What this does is make the path for searching "oxf:" resources as:

1. webapp
2. classloader

instead of:

1. filesystem
2. classloader
3. webapp

There is reasonably extensive documentation about resource managers here:

   http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-resource-managers

-Erik

[hidden email] wrote:

>
> Alex:
>
> Thanks for your reply.  I checked, and there is certainly no examples
> directory under WEB-INF/resources (although there is, both in the
> Eclipse workspace for the ops CVS, and in the directory I unzipped the
> war file to.  However, I have noticed this text in the Tomcat startup
> sequence (in the stdout):
>
> Starting PresentationServer Release 3.0.1.200607031854
> Initializing Resource Manager with:
> {org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMana
> gerImplServletContext=org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContextFacade@14d1d41,
>
>  oxf.resources.priority.2=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.ClassLoaderResourceManagerFac
>
> tory,
> oxf.resources.factory=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.PriorityResourceManagerFact
> ory,
> oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:\eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/
> examples/web,
> oxf.resources.priority.3=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMa
> nagerFactory,
> oxf.resources.priority.1=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.FilesystemResour
> ceManagerFactory, oxf.resources.webapp.rootdir=/WEB-INF/resources}
> IN CONFIGURE
> cluster.journal.maxStore 65000
> cluster.journal.shift 100
> 04-Jul-2006 18:36:56 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol start
> (98 %)
> INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
> 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init
> INFO: JK: ajp13 listening on /0.0.0.0:8009
> 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.server.JkMain start
> INFO: Jk running ID=0 time=0/125  config=null
> 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.storeconfig.StoreLoader load
> INFO: Find registry server-registry.xml at classpath resource
> 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
> INFO: Server startup in 9906 ms
>
> I just noticed the part of this in the 'Initializing Resource Manager
> with: ...' line that has the following
> "oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:\eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/"
> -- where is this coming from?  And how does the Resource Manager go
> about searching for resources?
>
> I could just load the whole ops webapp directory into a running Tomcat
> on a proper (I mean, LInux, really) server, and not inside our LAN.
>  What do you think?
>
> And, in case I wasn't clear in my last message, we like everything we
> see in OPS :-)
>
> Regards
>
> Nigel
> examples/web
>
> Nigel Harrison
>
>
> [hidden email] wrote on 05/07/2006 20:47:09:
>
>  > Hi Nigel,
>  >
>  > The list of examples displayed on the left in the "examples portal"
>  > comes from examples/examples-list.xml. So it is quite surprising that
>  > you would have that list displayed after you removed the whole
>  > examples directory.
>  >
>  > Could it be possible that you removed another 'examples' directory,
>  > not the one used by Tomcat and the instance of PresentationServer you
>  > are hitting?
>  >
>  > Alex
>  >
>  > On 7/5/06, [hidden email] <Nigel_Harrison@lesoftco.
>  > co.uk> wrote:
>  > >
>  > > We have been experimenting with OPS for a couple of months, and are now
>  > > looking to deploy it in a 'real-ish' situation, to provide a
> smallnumber of
>  > > xml-based services for our clients.  To try to achieve this, I have
> a local
>  > > installation of Tomcat 5.5.17, to which I have deployed OPS, by,
> broadly,
>  > > following the instructions in a ops-users mailing list response
> from Erik
>  > > Bruchez from 16th February, 2006.  Specifically, I have taken the
> following
>  > > steps (in Windows XP Pro SP2):
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Extracted the HEAD from cvsroot/ops at objectweb.org CVS site
>  > > Followed the build instructions in documentation (and from
> ops-users) to
>  > > build a war file
>  > > Extracted the contents of the war file to a new directory
>  > > Removed the directories from this directory, as indicated in Erik's
> response
>  > > on ops-users, namely:
>  > >
>  > > xforms-jsp (and subdirectories)
>  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples
>  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples-portal
>  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples-standalone
>  > > WEB-INF/resources/init-database
>  > > (I left the WEB-INF/resources/context directory, partly because I
> wasn't
>  > > sure what it did.)
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Added a directory WEB-INF/resources/irs with some of our resources, and
>  > > modified the page-flow.xml file in the WEB-INF/resources directory,
> to point
>  > > to the new directory.
>  > > Copied the whole of this directory into the Tomcat webapps
> directory as a
>  > > new ops subdirectory.
>  > > Started up Tomcat locally
>  > > As this stage, Tomcat reports the ops web-app is started (good),
> but when I
>  > > open the browser (Firefox, although tried with IE too), I get the
> startup
>  > > screen for the OPS examples portal (the one with the list of
> examples down
>  > > the left-hand side, and 'Welcome to the OPS Examples' title).
>  Didn't I just
>  > > remove this page?, I think.  But, I carry on regardless, and select
> Controls
>  > > from under Must-See XForms from the menu on the left.  As if by
> magic, the
>  > > XForms example with the tabs and many XForms controls comes up (!).
>  If I
>  > > then click on the VIEW SOURCE link at the top of the page, an OPS
> error page
>  > > comes up, with the message "Cannot read from file
>  > > /examples/xforms/xforms-controls/example-descriptor-files.xml".
>  > >  Well, that's a very reasonable message, because none of the
> filesthat make
>  > > up the examples are there.  The question is, From where has it
> located the
>  > > examples start-up screen, and the Controls XForms view?  And why
> does it not
>  > > get the page flow details for our own pages?
>  > >
>  > > I did suspect that, somehow, the browser's cache had interfered, but I
>  > > cleared the cache completely, and get the same result.  It's
> obvious I'm
>  > > missing something very simple, but, as always, the simplest things
> are the
>  > > most frustrating ...
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Nigel Harrison
>  > >  LeSoftCo Limited
>  > >  UK
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > --
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>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  >
>  >
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>  > http://www.orbeon.com/blog/
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Re: Trying to build a 'real' deployment of OPS-based application, but failing somewhere!

Nigel Harrison

Erik:

Thanks.  I knew it would be straighforward!  I'll try to set that up tomorrow, and let you know how it goes.

Many thanks

Regards

Nigel

Nigel Harrison
LeSoftCo Limited


Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote on 05/07/2006 22:59:20:

> Nigel,
>
> The resource manager configuration comes from web.xml. In there, you
> will see some lines that configure a filesystem resource manager as
> priority 1. Instead, comment that out, and uncomment the lines that
> configure the webapp resources manager as priority 1 (instead of
> priority 3 as is the case now).
>
> What this does is make the path for searching "oxf:" resources as:
>
> 1. webapp
> 2. classloader
>
> instead of:
>
> 1. filesystem
> 2. classloader
> 3. webapp
>
> There is reasonably extensive documentation about resource managers here:
>
>    http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-resource-managers
>
> -Erik
>
> [hidden email] wrote:
> >
> > Alex:
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.  I checked, and there is certainly no examples
> > directory under WEB-INF/resources (although there is, both in the
> > Eclipse workspace for the ops CVS, and in the directory I unzipped the
> > war file to.  However, I have noticed this text in the Tomcat startup
> > sequence (in the stdout):
> >
> > Starting PresentationServer Release 3.0.1.200607031854
> > Initializing Resource Manager with:
> > {org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMana
> > gerImplServletContext=org.apache.catalina.core.
> ApplicationContextFacade@14d1d41,
> >
> >  oxf.resources.priority.2=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.
> ClassLoaderResourceManagerFac
> >
> > tory,
> > oxf.resources.factory=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.PriorityResourceManagerFact
> > ory,
> > oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:\eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/
> > examples/web,
> > oxf.resources.priority.3=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMa
> > nagerFactory,
> > oxf.resources.priority.1=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.FilesystemResour
> > ceManagerFactory, oxf.resources.webapp.rootdir=/WEB-INF/resources}
> > IN CONFIGURE
> > cluster.journal.maxStore 65000
> > cluster.journal.shift 100
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:56 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol start
> > (98 %)
> > INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init
> > INFO: JK: ajp13 listening on /0.0.0.0:8009
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.server.JkMain start
> > INFO: Jk running ID=0 time=0/125  config=null
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.storeconfig.StoreLoader load
> > INFO: Find registry server-registry.xml at classpath resource
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
> > INFO: Server startup in 9906 ms
> >
> > I just noticed the part of this in the 'Initializing Resource Manager
> > with: ...' line that has the following
> > "oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:
> \eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/"
> > -- where is this coming from?  And how does the Resource Manager go
> > about searching for resources?
> >
> > I could just load the whole ops webapp directory into a running Tomcat
> > on a proper (I mean, LInux, really) server, and not inside our LAN.
> >  What do you think?
> >
> > And, in case I wasn't clear in my last message, we like everything we
> > see in OPS :-)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Nigel
> > examples/web
> >
> > Nigel Harrison
> >
> >
> > [hidden email] wrote on 05/07/2006 20:47:09:
> >
> >  > Hi Nigel,
> >  >
> >  > The list of examples displayed on the left in the "examples portal"
> >  > comes from examples/examples-list.xml. So it is quite surprising that
> >  > you would have that list displayed after you removed the whole
> >  > examples directory.
> >  >
> >  > Could it be possible that you removed another 'examples' directory,
> >  > not the one used by Tomcat and the instance of PresentationServer you
> >  > are hitting?
> >  >
> >  > Alex
> >  >
> >  > On 7/5/06, [hidden email] <Nigel_Harrison@lesoftco.
> >  > co.uk> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > We have been experimenting with OPS for a couple of months, and are now
> >  > > looking to deploy it in a 'real-ish' situation, to provide a
> > smallnumber of
> >  > > xml-based services for our clients.  To try to achieve this, I have
> > a local
> >  > > installation of Tomcat 5.5.17, to which I have deployed OPS, by,
> > broadly,
> >  > > following the instructions in a ops-users mailing list response
> > from Erik
> >  > > Bruchez from 16th February, 2006.  Specifically, I have taken the
> > following
> >  > > steps (in Windows XP Pro SP2):
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Extracted the HEAD from cvsroot/ops at objectweb.org CVS site
> >  > > Followed the build instructions in documentation (and from
> > ops-users) to
> >  > > build a war file
> >  > > Extracted the contents of the war file to a new directory
> >  > > Removed the directories from this directory, as indicated in Erik's
> > response
> >  > > on ops-users, namely:
> >  > >
> >  > > xforms-jsp (and subdirectories)
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples-portal
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples-standalone
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/init-database
> >  > > (I left the WEB-INF/resources/context directory, partly because I
> > wasn't
> >  > > sure what it did.)
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Added a directory WEB-INF/resources/irs with some of our resources, and
> >  > > modified the page-flow.xml file in the WEB-INF/resources directory,
> > to point
> >  > > to the new directory.
> >  > > Copied the whole of this directory into the Tomcat webapps
> > directory as a
> >  > > new ops subdirectory.
> >  > > Started up Tomcat locally
> >  > > As this stage, Tomcat reports the ops web-app is started (good),
> > but when I
> >  > > open the browser (Firefox, although tried with IE too), I get the
> > startup
> >  > > screen for the OPS examples portal (the one with the list of
> > examples down
> >  > > the left-hand side, and 'Welcome to the OPS Examples' title).
> >  Didn't I just
> >  > > remove this page?, I think.  But, I carry on regardless, and select
> > Controls
> >  > > from under Must-See XForms from the menu on the left.  As if by
> > magic, the
> >  > > XForms example with the tabs and many XForms controls comes up (!).
> >  If I
> >  > > then click on the VIEW SOURCE link at the top of the page, an OPS
> > error page
> >  > > comes up, with the message "Cannot read from file
> >  > > /examples/xforms/xforms-controls/example-descriptor-files.xml".
> >  > >  Well, that's a very reasonable message, because none of the
> > filesthat make
> >  > > up the examples are there.  The question is, From where has it
> > located the
> >  > > examples start-up screen, and the Controls XForms view?  And why
> > does it not
> >  > > get the page flow details for our own pages?
> >  > >
> >  > > I did suspect that, somehow, the browser's cache had interfered, but I
> >  > > cleared the cache completely, and get the same result.  It's
> > obvious I'm
> >  > > missing something very simple, but, as always, the simplest things
> > are the
> >  > > most frustrating ...
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Nigel Harrison
> >  > >  LeSoftCo Limited
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Re: Trying to build a 'real' deployment of OPS-based application, but failing somewhere!

Nigel Harrison
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Erik:

Having now read the documentation, and applied the changes you indicated, our deployment works as expected.  Thanks for your help.

Nigel

Nigel Harrison
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Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote on 05/07/2006 22:59:20:

> Nigel,
>
> The resource manager configuration comes from web.xml. In there, you
> will see some lines that configure a filesystem resource manager as
> priority 1. Instead, comment that out, and uncomment the lines that
> configure the webapp resources manager as priority 1 (instead of
> priority 3 as is the case now).
>
> What this does is make the path for searching "oxf:" resources as:
>
> 1. webapp
> 2. classloader
>
> instead of:
>
> 1. filesystem
> 2. classloader
> 3. webapp
>
> There is reasonably extensive documentation about resource managers here:
>
>    http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-resource-managers
>
> -Erik
>
> [hidden email] wrote:
> >
> > Alex:
> >
> > Thanks for your reply.  I checked, and there is certainly no examples
> > directory under WEB-INF/resources (although there is, both in the
> > Eclipse workspace for the ops CVS, and in the directory I unzipped the
> > war file to.  However, I have noticed this text in the Tomcat startup
> > sequence (in the stdout):
> >
> > Starting PresentationServer Release 3.0.1.200607031854
> > Initializing Resource Manager with:
> > {org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMana
> > gerImplServletContext=org.apache.catalina.core.
> ApplicationContextFacade@14d1d41,
> >
> >  oxf.resources.priority.2=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.
> ClassLoaderResourceManagerFac
> >
> > tory,
> > oxf.resources.factory=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.PriorityResourceManagerFact
> > ory,
> > oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:\eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/
> > examples/web,
> > oxf.resources.priority.3=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.WebAppResourceMa
> > nagerFactory,
> > oxf.resources.priority.1=org.orbeon.oxf.resources.FilesystemResour
> > ceManagerFactory, oxf.resources.webapp.rootdir=/WEB-INF/resources}
> > IN CONFIGURE
> > cluster.journal.maxStore 65000
> > cluster.journal.shift 100
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:56 org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11BaseProtocol start
> > (98 %)
> > INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on http-8080
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init
> > INFO: JK: ajp13 listening on /0.0.0.0:8009
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.jk.server.JkMain start
> > INFO: Jk running ID=0 time=0/125  config=null
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.storeconfig.StoreLoader load
> > INFO: Find registry server-registry.xml at classpath resource
> > 04-Jul-2006 18:36:57 org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina start
> > INFO: Server startup in 9906 ms
> >
> > I just noticed the part of this in the 'Initializing Resource Manager
> > with: ...' line that has the following
> > "oxf.resources.filesystem.sandbox-directory=C:
> \eclipse\workspace\orbeon/src/"
> > -- where is this coming from?  And how does the Resource Manager go
> > about searching for resources?
> >
> > I could just load the whole ops webapp directory into a running Tomcat
> > on a proper (I mean, LInux, really) server, and not inside our LAN.
> >  What do you think?
> >
> > And, in case I wasn't clear in my last message, we like everything we
> > see in OPS :-)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Nigel
> > examples/web
> >
> > Nigel Harrison
> >
> >
> > [hidden email] wrote on 05/07/2006 20:47:09:
> >
> >  > Hi Nigel,
> >  >
> >  > The list of examples displayed on the left in the "examples portal"
> >  > comes from examples/examples-list.xml. So it is quite surprising that
> >  > you would have that list displayed after you removed the whole
> >  > examples directory.
> >  >
> >  > Could it be possible that you removed another 'examples' directory,
> >  > not the one used by Tomcat and the instance of PresentationServer you
> >  > are hitting?
> >  >
> >  > Alex
> >  >
> >  > On 7/5/06, [hidden email] <Nigel_Harrison@lesoftco.
> >  > co.uk> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > We have been experimenting with OPS for a couple of months, and are now
> >  > > looking to deploy it in a 'real-ish' situation, to provide a
> > smallnumber of
> >  > > xml-based services for our clients.  To try to achieve this, I have
> > a local
> >  > > installation of Tomcat 5.5.17, to which I have deployed OPS, by,
> > broadly,
> >  > > following the instructions in a ops-users mailing list response
> > from Erik
> >  > > Bruchez from 16th February, 2006.  Specifically, I have taken the
> > following
> >  > > steps (in Windows XP Pro SP2):
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Extracted the HEAD from cvsroot/ops at objectweb.org CVS site
> >  > > Followed the build instructions in documentation (and from
> > ops-users) to
> >  > > build a war file
> >  > > Extracted the contents of the war file to a new directory
> >  > > Removed the directories from this directory, as indicated in Erik's
> > response
> >  > > on ops-users, namely:
> >  > >
> >  > > xforms-jsp (and subdirectories)
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples-portal
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/examples-standalone
> >  > > WEB-INF/resources/init-database
> >  > > (I left the WEB-INF/resources/context directory, partly because I
> > wasn't
> >  > > sure what it did.)
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Added a directory WEB-INF/resources/irs with some of our resources, and
> >  > > modified the page-flow.xml file in the WEB-INF/resources directory,
> > to point
> >  > > to the new directory.
> >  > > Copied the whole of this directory into the Tomcat webapps
> > directory as a
> >  > > new ops subdirectory.
> >  > > Started up Tomcat locally
> >  > > As this stage, Tomcat reports the ops web-app is started (good),
> > but when I
> >  > > open the browser (Firefox, although tried with IE too), I get the
> > startup
> >  > > screen for the OPS examples portal (the one with the list of
> > examples down
> >  > > the left-hand side, and 'Welcome to the OPS Examples' title).
> >  Didn't I just
> >  > > remove this page?, I think.  But, I carry on regardless, and select
> > Controls
> >  > > from under Must-See XForms from the menu on the left.  As if by
> > magic, the
> >  > > XForms example with the tabs and many XForms controls comes up (!).
> >  If I
> >  > > then click on the VIEW SOURCE link at the top of the page, an OPS
> > error page
> >  > > comes up, with the message "Cannot read from file
> >  > > /examples/xforms/xforms-controls/example-descriptor-files.xml".
> >  > >  Well, that's a very reasonable message, because none of the
> > filesthat make
> >  > > up the examples are there.  The question is, From where has it
> > located the
> >  > > examples start-up screen, and the Controls XForms view?  And why
> > does it not
> >  > > get the page flow details for our own pages?
> >  > >
> >  > > I did suspect that, somehow, the browser's cache had interfered, but I
> >  > > cleared the cache completely, and get the same result.  It's
> > obvious I'm
> >  > > missing something very simple, but, as always, the simplest things
> > are the
> >  > > most frustrating ...
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > Nigel Harrison
> >  > >  LeSoftCo Limited
> >  > >  UK
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SOAP Messages with Attachments

Tom Ferdinande
Hi,

I would like to send a client request from Orbeon to a SOAP webservice using
the SOAP Messages with Attachments spec
(http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP-attachments). The attachments consist of Word and
pdf docs uploaded via a file upload controls. Is this supported by Orbeon
and is there an example available ?

Best regards,

Tom Ferdinande
http://www.encima.be





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How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-evaluated after a form change?

Nigel Harrison
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All:

I have a form, with a select1 element with a single item subelement.  A related textarea has a bind which requires the select1 to be selected to become 'relevant'.  How do I do about triggering the textarea control to be displayed, when the select1 is selected, please?

Regards

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RE: How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-evaluated after a form change?

Ryan Puddephatt

Nigel,

            You could set a value on the xforms-focus-in/xforms-focus-out event of the select1 control, based on the value of this element you could change the whether the textarea was relevant. The only problem I can see is when selecting the textarea you will lose focus of the select1 control and it will become non-relevant

 

Hope this helps

 

Ryan

 

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Subject: [ops-users] How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-evaluated after a form change?

 


All:

I have a form, with a select1 element with a single item subelement.  A related textarea has a bind which requires the select1 to be selected to become 'relevant'.  How do I do about triggering the textarea control to be displayed, when the select1 is selected, please?

Regards

Nigel Harrison
LeSoftCo Limited



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RE: How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-evaluated after a form change?

Nigel Harrison

Ryan:

Thanks for your help.  I could make your suggestion work, and I could also use the xforms-value-changed event.  One question: is there somewhere I can found out what events are supported in OPS: I did discover that xforms-checked/xforms-unchecked didn't seem to work (although that could just be my lack of knowledge, of course).

Regards

Nigel Harrison
LeSoftCo Limited


Ryan Puddephatt <[hidden email]> wrote on 09/07/2006 18:15:46:

> Nigel,

>             You could set a value on the xforms-focus-in/xforms-
> focus-out event of the select1 control, based on the value of this
> element you could change the whether the textarea was relevant. The
> only problem I can see is when selecting the textarea you will lose
> focus of the select1 control and it will become non-relevant

>  
> Hope this helps
>  
> Ryan
>  
> Ryan Puddephatt
> Software Engineer
> TFX Group - IT UK
> 1 Michaelson Square
> Livingston
> West Lothian
> Scotand
> EH54 7DP
>  
> * [hidden email]
> ( 01506 407 110
> 7  01506 407 108
>  
>
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 09 July 2006 18:03
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [ops-users] How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-
> evaluated after a form change?

>  
>
> All:
>
> I have a form, with a select1 element with a single item subelement.
> A related textarea has a bind which requires the select1 to be
> selected to become 'relevant'.  How do I do about triggering the
> textarea control to be displayed, when the select1 is selected, please?
>
> Regards
>
> Nigel Harrison
> LeSoftCo Limited
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Re: How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-evaluated after a form change?

Erik Bruchez
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Nigel,

There are no such events in XForms as xforms-checked/xforms-unchecked.

;-)

This said we support most of the events from the XForms 1.0 2nd edition
spec, and I think we have bugs entered for the missing ones, like
xforms-select/xforms-deselect on xforms:item and xforms:itemset (they
work on xforms:case), and xforms-in-range/xforms-out-of-range.

-Erik

[hidden email] wrote:

>
> Ryan:
>
> Thanks for your help.  I could make your suggestion work, and I could
> also use the xforms-value-changed event.  One question: is there
> somewhere I can found out what events are supported in OPS: I did
> discover that xforms-checked/xforms-unchecked didn't seem to work
> (although that could just be my lack of knowledge, of course).
>
> Regards
>
> Nigel Harrison
> LeSoftCo Limited
>
>
> Ryan Puddephatt <[hidden email]> wrote on 09/07/2006 18:15:46:
>
>  > Nigel,
>  >             You could set a value on the xforms-focus-in/xforms-
>  > focus-out event of the select1 control, based on the value of this
>  > element you could change the whether the textarea was relevant. The
>  > only problem I can see is when selecting the textarea you will lose
>  > focus of the select1 control and it will become non-relevant
>  >  
>  > Hope this helps
>  >  
>  > Ryan
>  >  
>  > Ryan Puddephatt
>  > Software Engineer
>  > TFX Group - IT UK
>  > 1 Michaelson Square
>  > Livingston
>  > West Lothian
>  > Scotand
>  > EH54 7DP
>  >  
>  > * [hidden email]
>  > ( 01506 407 110
>  > 7  01506 407 108
>  >  
>  >
>  > From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]
>  > Sent: 09 July 2006 18:03
>  > To: [hidden email]
>  > Subject: [ops-users] How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-
>  > evaluated after a form change?
>  >  
>  >
>  > All:
>  >
>  > I have a form, with a select1 element with a single item subelement.
>  > A related textarea has a bind which requires the select1 to be
>  > selected to become 'relevant'.  How do I do about triggering the
>  > textarea control to be displayed, when the select1 is selected, please?
>  >
>  > Regards
>  >
>  > Nigel Harrison
>  > LeSoftCo Limited
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Re: How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-evaluated after a form change?

Nigel Harrison

Erik:

Silly me: I meant xforms-select and xforms-deselect: that comes from talking a language I don't understand yet :-)  I'll go and take a look at the bug tracker: I am working through the XForms specs ...

Thanks

Nigel

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Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote on 11/07/2006 01:27:37:

> Nigel,
>
> There are no such events in XForms as xforms-checked/xforms-unchecked.
>
> ;-)
>
> This said we support most of the events from the XForms 1.0 2nd edition
> spec, and I think we have bugs entered for the missing ones, like
> xforms-select/xforms-deselect on xforms:item and xforms:itemset (they
> work on xforms:case), and xforms-in-range/xforms-out-of-range.
>
> -Erik
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> [hidden email] wrote:
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> > Ryan:
> >
> > Thanks for your help.  I could make your suggestion work, and I could
> > also use the xforms-value-changed event.  One question: is there
> > somewhere I can found out what events are supported in OPS: I did
> > discover that xforms-checked/xforms-unchecked didn't seem to work
> > (although that could just be my lack of knowledge, of course).
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Nigel Harrison
> > LeSoftCo Limited
> >
> >
> > Ryan Puddephatt <[hidden email]> wrote on 09/07/2006 18:15:46:
> >
> >  > Nigel,
> >  >             You could set a value on the xforms-focus-in/xforms-
> >  > focus-out event of the select1 control, based on the value of this
> >  > element you could change the whether the textarea was relevant. The
> >  > only problem I can see is when selecting the textarea you will lose
> >  > focus of the select1 control and it will become non-relevant
> >  >  
> >  > Hope this helps
> >  >  
> >  > Ryan
> >  >  
> >  > Ryan Puddephatt
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> >  > From: [hidden email]
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> >  > Sent: 09 July 2006 18:03
> >  > To: [hidden email]
> >  > Subject: [ops-users] How do I get a 'relevant' attribute to be re-
> >  > evaluated after a form change?
> >  >  
> >  >
> >  > All:
> >  >
> >  > I have a form, with a select1 element with a single item subelement.
> >  > A related textarea has a bind which requires the select1 to be
> >  > selected to become 'relevant'.  How do I do about triggering the
> >  > textarea control to be displayed, when the select1 is selected, please?
> >  >
> >  > Regards
> >  >
> >  > Nigel Harrison
> >  > LeSoftCo Limited
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Re: SOAP Messages with Attachments

Alessandro  Vernet
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In reply to this post by Tom Ferdinande
Hi Tom,

The delegation processor does not support attachments. But the source
is only a few hundred line long, so if you feel like it, you might
want to have a look at it to add this capability. If you decide to go
ahead, let us know if you have any question.

Alex

On 7/6/06, Tom Ferdinande <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
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> I would like to send a client request from Orbeon to a SOAP webservice using
> the SOAP Messages with Attachments spec
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> pdf docs uploaded via a file upload controls. Is this supported by Orbeon
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