Form builder/Custom componenta

From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
Subject: [ops-users] Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
To: [hidden email]
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:53 PM

Hi Erik,

No, it is not the saved button, it is something else. A form with a custom
components controls show up ok after it is published. I populate standard &
custom controls with values, and I am able to hit the save button. The
standard controls values get saved but not the custom controls.  

I view the form infromation by hitting the Edit From button form the Summary
page, all the custom controls fields have empty values, where the standard
fields have values. 

It seems to me that the custom components persistence is not working.


Thanks,
Majeed




[hidden email] wrote:
> 
>  am new to form builder. I am currently evaluating the form builder
> usability. One of the main functionality I am interested in is the
"Custom
> Component". I am able to create different forms using the standard
> controls, save them, publish them and view forms data after saving. Every
> thing seems to be working ok. I ran into one issue with the "Custom
> Components". All the custom component controls that except data are
not
> saving data provide by the end users. Do I need to do anything special to
> enable this feature?  I am using release:Orbeon forms 3.7.0 beta1 +
> 200811250823.Tomcat 5.5.27Firefox 2.0.0.20  
> 
> 
> Majeed 
> 

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From: Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]>
Subject: [ops-users] Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:12 AM

Hi [hidden email],

I think, you are using controls which are available in both HTML (standard)  and XFORMS (custom) and you are able to save the value from HTML controls. As Erik has mentioned in one of his old communications, the submission of HTML page and XFORMS are different and you cannot mix it up. What you can try is that, separately submit the XFORMS and based on its submission status, submit your HTML page. You need to figure it out how you can do that, may be you can use IFRAME to show the XFORMS controls.

 

Regards

Sabeer 

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Subject: [SS] [ops-users] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta

Hi all,   Has anyone faced/seen the same issue?.   Thanks, Majeed --- On Mon, 1/12/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Form builder/Custom componenta To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:53 PM Hi Erik, No, it is not the saved button, it is something else. A form with a custom components controls show up ok after it is published. I populate standard & custom controls with values, and I am able to hit the save button. The standard controls values get saved but not the custom controls. I view the form infromation by hitting the Edit From button form the Summary page, all the custom controls fields have empty values, where the standard fields have values. It seems to me that the custom components persistence is not working. Thanks, Majeed [hidden email] wrote: > > am new to form builder. I am currently evaluating the form builder > usability. One of the main functionality I am interested in is the "Custom > Component". I am able to create different forms using the standard > controls, save them, publish them and view forms data after saving. Every > thing seems to be working ok. I ran into one issue with the "Custom > Components". All the custom component controls that except data are not > saving data provide by the end users. Do I need to do anything special to > enable this feature? I am using release:Orbeon forms 3.7.0 beta1 + > 200811250823.Tomcat 5.5.27Firefox 2.0.0.20 > > > Majeed > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Form-builder-Custom-componenta-tp21380390p21428014.html Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws

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From: Majeed Almadan <[hidden email]>
Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 9:48 AM

Thanks Sabeer. Also Thanks Erik for your earlier post.   Just to Clarify, I am using the Orbeon From builder and utilizing both standard controls and custom controls "Custom Components" that come out of the box with the application “Form Builder”. From the toolbox in the left hand side when I am building my forms, I pick from the standard controls for example "Single-line Text" and from the  Custom Components for example I pick "US Phone Number" and go on about saving and publishing the form. Using the published form, the values from the standard controls get saved and the custom components controls do not get saved.   What is the difference between “Standard controls” and Custom Components? That I see in the Form Builder”   I thought the idea (functionality) behind the custom components and custom sections is the ability to create more controls that will behave like standard out of the box controls.   If this is not the case, how would I go about adding my own controls that will behave like the standard out of the box controls? So I do not have to mess up with the from submission and just use out of the box functionalities.     Thanks, Majeed   --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]> Subject: [ops-users] Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:12 AM Hi [hidden email], I think, you are using controls which are available in both HTML (standard)  and XFORMS (custom) and you are able to save the value from HTML controls. As Erik has mentioned in one of his old communications, the submission of HTML page and XFORMS are different and you cannot mix it up. What you can try is that, separately submit the XFORMS and based on its submission status, submit your HTML page. You need to figure it out how you can do that, may be you can use IFRAME to show the XFORMS controls.   Regards Sabeer  ----- Original Message ----- From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:58 AM Subject: [SS] [ops-users] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta Hi all,   Has anyone faced/seen the same issue?.   Thanks, Majeed --- On Mon, 1/12/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Form builder/Custom componenta To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:53 PM Hi Erik, No, it is not the saved button, it is something else. A form with a custom components controls show up ok after it is published. I populate standard & custom controls with values, and I am able to hit the save button. The standard controls values get saved but not the custom controls. I view the form infromation by hitting the Edit From button form the Summary page, all the custom controls fields have empty values, where the standard fields have values. It seems to me that the custom components persistence is not working. Thanks, Majeed [hidden email] wrote: > > am new to form builder. I am currently evaluating the form builder > usability. One of the main functionality I am interested in is the "Custom > Component". I am able to create different forms using the standard > controls, save them, publish them and view forms data after saving. Every > thing seems to be working ok. I ran into one issue with the "Custom > Components". All the custom component controls that except data are not > saving data provide by the end users. Do I need to do anything special to > enable this feature? I am using release:Orbeon forms 3.7.0 beta1 + > 200811250823.Tomcat 5.5.27Firefox 2.0.0.20 > > > Majeed > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Form-builder-Custom-componenta-tp21380390p21428014.html Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws

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From: Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]>
Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
To: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 9:41 PM

Sorry for my previous post without any message

 

Hi Majeed,

I was confused about customs controls in your previous mails. I thought, you are trying to mix up HTML controls and XFORMS controls and for XFORMS controls, you are not able to get the values for XFORMS controls. Since you are using Form Builder, I think, the issue is something else.  

 

Regards

Sabeer 

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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:17 PM

Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta

Hi All, I have downloaded the latest nightly build and the out of the box custom components is behaving still the same. Does anyone have a logical explanation of what is going on?. Am I using the custom component feature in the wrong place?   Sabeer, I do not totally understand of what you mean, excuses my lack of knowledge about the subject?  I searched the forums to find the any related topic as you stated there might be an earlier communication from Erik into the subject.   I am still trying to find out an answer to this question.    Thanks, Majeed   --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Majeed Almadan <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Majeed Almadan <[hidden email]> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 9:48 AM Thanks Sabeer. Also Thanks Erik for your earlier post.   Just to Clarify, I am using the Orbeon From builder and utilizing both standard controls and custom controls "Custom Components" that come out of the box with the application “Form Builder”. From the toolbox in the left hand side when I am building my forms, I pick from the standard controls for example "Single-line Text" and from the  Custom Components for example I pick "US Phone Number" and go on about saving and publishing the form. Using the published form, the values from the standard controls get saved and the custom components controls do not get saved.   What is the difference between “Standard controls” and Custom Components? That I see in the Form Builder”   I thought the idea (functionality) behind the custom components and custom sections is the ability to create more controls that will behave like standard out of the box controls.   If this is not the case, how would I go about adding my own controls that will behave like the standard out of the box controls? So I do not have to mess up with the from submission and just use out of the box functionalities.     Thanks, Majeed   --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]> Subject: [ops-users] Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta To: [hidden email] Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:12 AM Hi [hidden email], I think, you are using controls which are available in both HTML (standard)  and XFORMS (custom) and you are able to save the value from HTML controls. As Erik has mentioned in one of his old communications, the submission of HTML page and XFORMS are different and you cannot mix it up. What you can try is that, separately submit the XFORMS and based on its submission status, submit your HTML page. You need to figure it out how you can do that, may be you can use IFRAME to show the XFORMS controls.   Regards Sabeer  ----- Original Message ----- From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:58 AM Subject: [SS] [ops-users] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta Hi all,   Has anyone faced/seen the same issue?.   Thanks, Majeed --- On Mon, 1/12/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Form builder/Custom componenta To: [hidden email] Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:53 PM Hi Erik, No, it is not the saved button, it is something else. A form with a custom components controls show up ok after it is published. I populate standard & custom controls with values, and I am able to hit the save button. The standard controls values get saved but not the custom controls. I view the form infromation by hitting the Edit From button form the Summary page, all the custom controls fields have empty values, where the standard fields have values. It seems to me that the custom components persistence is not working. Thanks, Majeed [hidden email] wrote: > > am new to form builder. I am currently evaluating the form builder > usability. One of the main functionality I am interested in is the "Custom > Component". I am able to create different forms using the standard > controls, save them, publish them and view forms data after saving. Every > thing seems to be working ok. I ran into one issue with the "Custom > Components". All the custom component controls that except data are not > saving data provide by the end users. Do I need to do anything special to > enable this feature? I am using release:Orbeon forms 3.7.0 beta1 + > 200811250823.Tomcat 5.5.27Firefox 2.0.0.20 > > > Majeed > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Form-builder-Custom-componenta-tp21380390p21428014.html Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. 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From: Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>
Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
To: [hidden email]
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 2:03 PM

Majeed,

A few quick answers:

* The "Standard Controls" in the toolbar are meant to be the basic
controls supported by Form Builder.

* The "Custom Components" in the toolbar are meant to be more
elaborate controls built which using XBL, which can be used to extend Form
Builder.

* The "Custom Components" currently in the Form Builder toolbar are
there just for demo purposes, they haven't really been seriously worked on
yet.

* You can find their definitions in a file called standard.xbl, which we are
just now moving to custom-controls.xbl.

* I do notice some issues with reading back the data with those example
controls. That seems to work outside Form Runner though. We will have to look
into it.

I hope this helps,

-Erik

On Jan 19, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Majeed Almadan wrote:

> Thanks Sabeer for your feedback.
> 
> Can any one confirm, if this feature works, if so what I am doing wrong?.
> 
> Thanks,
> Majeed
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 1/18/09, Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]>
wrote:
> From: Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom
componenta
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 9:41 PM
> 
> Sorry for my previous post without any message
> 
> Hi Majeed,
> I was confused about customs controls in your previous mails. I thought,
you are trying to mix up HTML controls and XFORMS controls and for XFORMS
controls, you are not able to get the values for XFORMS controls. Since you are
using Form Builder, I think, the issue is something else.
> 
> Regards
> Sabeer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Majeed Almadan
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:17 PM
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom
componenta
> 
> Hi All,
> I have downloaded the latest nightly build and the out of the box custom
components is behaving still the same. Does anyone have a logical explanation of
what is going on?. Am I using the custom component feature in the wrong place?
> 
> Sabeer, I do not totally understand of what you mean, excuses my lack of
knowledge about the subject?  I searched the forums to find the any related
topic as you stated there might be an earlier communication from Erik into the
subject.
> 
> I am still trying to find out an answer to this question.
> 
> Thanks,
> Majeed
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Majeed Almadan <[hidden email]> wrote:
> From: Majeed Almadan <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 9:48 AM
> 
> Thanks Sabeer. Also Thanks Erik for your earlier post.
> 
> Just to Clarify, I am using the Orbeon From builder and utilizing both
standard
> controls and custom controls "Custom Components" that come out
of the box with the application “Form Builder”. From the toolbox in the left
hand side when I am building my forms, I pick from the standard controls for
example "Single-line Text" and from the  Custom Components for example
I pick "US Phone Number" and go on about saving and publishing the
form. Using the published form, the values from the standard controls get saved
and the custom components controls do not get saved.
> 
> What is the difference between “Standard controls” and Custom
Components? That I see in the Form Builder”
> 
> I thought the idea (functionality) behind the custom components and custom
sections is the ability to create more controls that will behave like standard
out of the box controls.
> 
> If this is not the case, how would I go about adding my own controls that
will behave like the standard out of the box controls? So I do not have to mess
up with the from submission and just use out of the box functionalities.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Majeed
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]>
wrote:
> From: Sabeer Hussain <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: [SS] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:12 AM
> 
> Hi Majeed,
> I think, you are using controls which are available in both HTML
(standard)  and XFORMS (custom) and you are able to save the value from HTML
controls. As Erik has mentioned in one of his old communications, the submission
of HTML page and XFORMS are different and you cannot mix it up. What you can try
is that, separately submit the XFORMS and based on its submission status, submit
your HTML page. You need to figure it out how you can do that, may be you can
use IFRAME to show the XFORMS controls.
> 
> Regards
> Sabeer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Majeed Almadan
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:58 AM
> Subject: [SS] [ops-users] Re: Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone faced/seen the same issue?.
> 
> Thanks,
> Majeed
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/12/09, [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
wrote:
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Form builder/Custom componenta
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 7:53 PM
> 
> Hi Erik,
> 
> No, it is not the saved button, it is something else. A form with a custom
> components controls show up ok after it is published. I populate standard
&
> custom controls with values, and I am able to hit the save button. The
> standard controls values get saved but not the custom controls.
> 
> I view the form infromation by hitting the Edit From button form the
Summary
> page, all the custom controls fields have empty values, where the standard
> fields have values.
> 
> It seems to me that the custom components persistence is not working.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Majeed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [hidden email] wrote:
> >
> >  am new to form builder. I am currently evaluating the form builder
> > usability. One of the main functionality I am interested in is the
> "Custom
> > Component". I am able to create different forms using the
standard
> > controls, save them, publish them and view forms data after saving.
Every
> > thing seems to be working ok. I ran into one issue with the
"Custom
> > Components". All the custom component controls that except data
are
> not
> > saving data provide by the end users. Do I need to do anything
special to
> > enable this feature?  I am using release:Orbeon forms 3.7.0 beta1 +
> > 200811250823.Tomcat 5.5.27Firefox 2.0.0.20
> >
> >
> > Majeed
> >
> 
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