DEBUG statement should be ERROR

> Its now a xforms 1.1 function so I would expect it to give me some  
> information
>
> Perhaps I'm expecting too much?
>
> Alex/Erik, any comment?
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> Sent: Wed Dec 17 21:24:58 2008
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>
> I'm afraid I haven't used the extended version of the event()  
> function, which provides the kind of context information you'd want  
> - all I really know is that it is documented at http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-2#event-context
>
> Sorry I can't offer more help than that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
> Dave,
>    I see your point with the logging, but also event() didn't  
> return anything helpful. How would I detect this error in code?
>
> Ryan
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]
> >
> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wed Dec 17 20:13:47 2008
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>
> Surely that's how it should be?  In production, the log should only  
> be logging errors when something has gone wrong with the  
> application, as opposed to some user having failed to fill in a  
> required field.  It's only while you're trying to figure out why the  
> submission isn't valid - presumably there's nothing on the screen to  
> explain what is wrong - that you would want to see a failed  
> submission in the logs.  And if you want to see that then you'd  
> enable debugging until you've got the form right.
>
> Just my tuppenceworth ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave Mc
>
> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
> In a recent build, this message is being thrown, but I don’t get  
> anything using event(‘’) or written to the log unless I’m debugging!
>
>
>
>                XForms - submission - xforms-submit-error  
> throwable: org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.XFormsModelSubmission
> $XFormsSubmissionException: line 38 of oxf:/config/xforms-
> widgets.xsl (checking instance validity): xforms:submission:  
> instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or required model item  
> properties.
>
> oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl, line 38, column -1:  
> xforms:submission: instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or  
> required model item properties.
>
>                at  
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .XFormsModelSubmission
> .createDocumentToSubmit(XFormsModelSubmission.java:1265)
>
>                at  
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .XFormsModelSubmission
> .performDefaultAction(XFormsModelSubmission.java:532)
>
>                at  
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>
>                at  
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .XFormsContainingDocument
> .dispatchEvent(XFormsContainingDocument.java:1019)
>
>                at  
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .control
> .controls
> .XFormsSubmitControl.performDefaultAction(XFormsSubmitControl.java:49)
>
>                at  
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>
>
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> Its now a xforms 1.1 function so I would expect it to give me some
> information
>
> Perhaps I'm expecting too much?
>
> Alex/Erik, any comment?
> -----------------------------------------------
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wed Dec 17 21:24:58 2008
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>
> I'm afraid I haven't used the extended version of the event()
> function, which provides the kind of context information you'd want
> - all I really know is that it is documented at
> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-2#event-context
>
> Sorry I can't offer more help than that.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
> Dave,
>    I see your point with the logging, but also event() didn't

> anything helpful. How would I detect this error in code?
>
> Ryan
> -----------------------------------------------
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> Connectivity Developer
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> be logging errors when something has gone wrong with the application,
> as opposed to some user having failed to fill in a required field.  
> It's only while you're trying to figure out why the submission isn't
> valid - presumably there's nothing on the screen to explain what is
> wrong - that you would want to see a failed submission in the logs.  
> And if you want to see that then you'd enable debugging until you've
> got the form right.
>
> Just my tuppenceworth ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave Mc
>
> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
> In a recent build, this message is being thrown, but I

> (checking instance validity): xforms:submission:
> instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or required model item
> properties.
>
> oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl, line 38, column -1:  
> xforms:submission: instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or
> required model item properties.
>
>                at
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .XFormsModelSubmission
> .createDocumentToSubmit(XFormsModelSubmission.java:1265)
>
>                at
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .XFormsModelSubmission
> .performDefaultAction(XFormsModelSubmission.java:532)
>
>                at
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>
>                at
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .XFormsContainingDocument
> .dispatchEvent(XFormsContainingDocument.java:1019)
>
>                at
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf
> .xforms
> .control
> .controls
> .XFormsSubmitControl.performDefaultAction(XFormsSubmitControl.java:49)
>
>                at
> org
> .orbeon
> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>
>
>
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> Erik,
> I'm looking for information as to why the submission failed, in
> this case, because the user hasn't filled out all the required fields.
>
> I guess in this case I would expect event('error-type') to return
> 'validation-error'
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
>
> -----------------------------------------------
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:01
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be  
> ERROR
>
> Which information are you looking for exactly? We are implementing the
> context information described here:
>
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#submit-evt-submit-error
>
> -Erik
>
> On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
>> Its now a xforms 1.1 function so I would expect it to give me some
>> information
>>
>> Perhaps I'm expecting too much?
>>
>> Alex/Erik, any comment?
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Connectivity Developer
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>> 1 Old Jewry
>> London EC2R 8DN
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
>> Email: [hidden email]
>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 21:24:58 2008
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>
>> I'm afraid I haven't used the extended version of the event()
>> function, which provides the kind of context information you'd want
>> - all I really know is that it is documented at
>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-2#event-context
>>
>> Sorry I can't offer more help than that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>    I see your point with the logging, but also event() didn't
> return
>> anything helpful. How would I detect this error in code?
>>
>> Ryan
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Connectivity Developer
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>> 1 Old Jewry
>> London EC2R 8DN
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>> <mailto:[hidden email]
>>>
>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 20:13:47 2008
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>
>> Surely that's how it should be?  In production, the log should
> only
>> be logging errors when something has gone wrong with the application,
>> as opposed to some user having failed to fill in a required field.
>> It's only while you're trying to figure out why the submission isn't
>> valid - presumably there's nothing on the screen to explain what is
>> wrong - that you would want to see a failed submission in the logs.
>> And if you want to see that then you'd enable debugging until you've
>> got the form right.
>>
>> Just my tuppenceworth ...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave Mc
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>
>> In a recent build, this message is being thrown, but I
> don't get
>> anything using event('') or written to the log unless I'm debugging!
>>
>>
>>
>>                XForms - submission -
> xforms-submit-error
>> throwable: org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.XFormsModelSubmission
>> $XFormsSubmissionException: line 38 of oxf:/config/xforms-  
>> widgets.xsl
>
>> (checking instance validity): xforms:submission:
>> instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or required model item
>> properties.
>>
>> oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl, line 38, column -1:
>> xforms:submission: instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or
>> required model item properties.
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>> .createDocumentToSubmit(XFormsModelSubmission.java:1265)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>> .performDefaultAction(XFormsModelSubmission.java:532)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .XFormsContainingDocument
>> .dispatchEvent(XFormsContainingDocument.java:1019)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .control
>> .controls
>> .XFormsSubmitControl.performDefaultAction(XFormsSubmitControl.java:
>> 49)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>
>> Connectivity Consultant
>>
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>
>> 1 Old Jewry
>>
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>>
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>
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> Erik,
> I'm looking for information as to why the submission failed, in this
> case, because the user hasn't filled out all the required fields.
>
> I guess in this case I would expect event('error-type') to return
> 'validation-error'
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Ryan Puddephatt
> Connectivity Developer
> Fidessa LatentZero
> 1 Old Jewry
> London EC2R 8DN
> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1818
> Email: [hidden email]
> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:01
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be
> ERROR
>
> Which information are you looking for exactly? We are implementing the
> context information described here:
>
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#submit-evt-submit-error
>
> -Erik
>
> On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
>> Its now a xforms 1.1 function so I would expect it to give me some
>> information
>>
>> Perhaps I'm expecting too much?
>>
>> Alex/Erik, any comment?
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Connectivity Developer
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>> 1 Old Jewry
>> London EC2R 8DN
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
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>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 21:24:58 2008
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>
>> I'm afraid I haven't used the extended version of the event()
>> function, which provides the kind of context information you'd want
>> - all I really know is that it is documented at
>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-2#event-context
>>
>> Sorry I can't offer more help than that.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>
>> Dave,
>>    I see your point with the logging, but also event() didn't
> return
>> anything helpful. How would I detect this error in code?
>>
>> Ryan
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Connectivity Developer
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>> 1 Old Jewry
>> London EC2R 8DN
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
>> Email: [hidden email]
>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>> <mailto:[hidden email]
>>>
>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 20:13:47 2008
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>
>> Surely that's how it should be?  In production, the log should
> only
>> be logging errors when something has gone wrong with the application,
>> as opposed to some user having failed to fill in a required field.
>> It's only while you're trying to figure out why the submission isn't
>> valid - presumably there's nothing on the screen to explain what is
>> wrong - that you would want to see a failed submission in the logs.
>> And if you want to see that then you'd enable debugging until you've
>> got the form right.
>>
>> Just my tuppenceworth ...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave Mc
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>
>> In a recent build, this message is being thrown, but I
> don't get
>> anything using event('') or written to the log unless I'm debugging!
>>
>>
>>
>>                XForms - submission -
> xforms-submit-error
>> throwable: org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.XFormsModelSubmission
>> $XFormsSubmissionException: line 38 of oxf:/config/xforms-
>> widgets.xsl
>
>> (checking instance validity): xforms:submission:
>> instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or required model item
>> properties.
>>
>> oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl, line 38, column -1:
>> xforms:submission: instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or
>> required model item properties.
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>> .createDocumentToSubmit(XFormsModelSubmission.java:1265)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>> .performDefaultAction(XFormsModelSubmission.java:532)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .XFormsContainingDocument
>> .dispatchEvent(XFormsContainingDocument.java:1019)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf
>> .xforms
>> .control
>> .controls
>> .XFormsSubmitControl.performDefaultAction(XFormsSubmitControl.java:
>> 49)
>>
>>                at
>> org
>> .orbeon
>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>
>> Connectivity Consultant
>>
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>
>> 1 Old Jewry
>>
>> London EC2R 8DN
>>
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> <http://www.latentzero.com/
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>>
>>
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> It doesn't didn't return this
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Ryan Puddephatt
> Connectivity Developer
> Fidessa LatentZero
> 1 Old Jewry
> London EC2R 8DN
> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:24
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement  
> should be ERROR
>
> Exactly!
>
> -Erik
>
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
>> Erik,
>> I'm looking for information as to why the submission failed, in this
>> case, because the user hasn't filled out all the required fields.
>>
>> I guess in this case I would expect event('error-type') to return
>> 'validation-error'
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Connectivity Developer
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>> 1 Old Jewry
>> London EC2R 8DN
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1818
>> Email: [hidden email]
>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:01
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be
>> ERROR
>>
>> Which information are you looking for exactly? We are implementing  
>> the
>> context information described here:
>>
>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#submit-evt-submit-error
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>
>>> Its now a xforms 1.1 function so I would expect it to give me some
>>> information
>>>
>>> Perhaps I'm expecting too much?
>>>
>>> Alex/Erik, any comment?
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>> Connectivity Developer
>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
>>> Email: [hidden email]
>>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 21:24:58 2008
>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>>
>>> I'm afraid I haven't used the extended version of the event()
>>> function, which provides the kind of context information you'd want
>>> - all I really know is that it is documented at
>>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-2#event-context
>>>
>>> Sorry I can't offer more help than that.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>    I see your point with the logging, but also event() didn't
>> return
>>> anything helpful. How would I detect this error in code?
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>> Connectivity Developer
>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
>>> Email: [hidden email]
>>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]
>>>>
>>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 20:13:47 2008
>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>>
>>> Surely that's how it should be?  In production, the log should
>> only
>>> be logging errors when something has gone wrong with the  
>>> application,
>>> as opposed to some user having failed to fill in a required field.
>>> It's only while you're trying to figure out why the submission isn't
>>> valid - presumably there's nothing on the screen to explain what is
>>> wrong - that you would want to see a failed submission in the logs.
>>> And if you want to see that then you'd enable debugging until you've
>>> got the form right.
>>>
>>> Just my tuppenceworth ...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave Mc
>>>
>>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>>
>>> In a recent build, this message is being thrown, but I
>> don't get
>>> anything using event('') or written to the log unless I'm debugging!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                XForms - submission -
>> xforms-submit-error
>>> throwable: org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.XFormsModelSubmission
>>> $XFormsSubmissionException: line 38 of oxf:/config/xforms-
>>> widgets.xsl
>>
>>> (checking instance validity): xforms:submission:
>>> instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or required model item
>>> properties.
>>>
>>> oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl, line 38, column -1:
>>> xforms:submission: instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or
>>> required model item properties.
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>>> .createDocumentToSubmit(XFormsModelSubmission.java:1265)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>>> .performDefaultAction(XFormsModelSubmission.java:532)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .XFormsContainingDocument
>>> .dispatchEvent(XFormsContainingDocument.java:1019)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .control
>>> .controls
>>> .XFormsSubmitControl.performDefaultAction(XFormsSubmitControl.java:
>>> 49)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>>
>>> Connectivity Consultant
>>>
>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>>
>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>>
>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>>
>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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> It doesn't didn't return this
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> Ryan Puddephatt
> Connectivity Developer
> Fidessa LatentZero
> 1 Old Jewry
> London EC2R 8DN
> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1818
> Email: [hidden email]
> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:24
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement
> should be ERROR
>
> Exactly!
>
> -Erik
>
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
>> Erik,
>> I'm looking for information as to why the submission failed, in this
>> case, because the user hasn't filled out all the required fields.
>>
>> I guess in this case I would expect event('error-type') to return
>> 'validation-error'
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Connectivity Developer
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>> 1 Old Jewry
>> London EC2R 8DN
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1818
>> Email: [hidden email]
>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:01
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be
>> ERROR
>>
>> Which information are you looking for exactly? We are implementing
>> the context information described here:
>>
>>  http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#submit-evt-submit-error
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>
>>> Its now a xforms 1.1 function so I would expect it to give me some
>>> information
>>>
>>> Perhaps I'm expecting too much?
>>>
>>> Alex/Erik, any comment?
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>> Connectivity Developer
>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
>>> Email: [hidden email]
>>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 21:24:58 2008
>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>>
>>> I'm afraid I haven't used the extended version of the event()
>>> function, which provides the kind of context information you'd want
>>> - all I really know is that it is documented at
>>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-2#event-context
>>>
>>> Sorry I can't offer more help than that.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>    I see your point with the logging, but also event() didn't
>> return
>>> anything helpful. How would I detect this error in code?
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>> Connectivity Developer
>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
>>> Email: [hidden email]
>>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]
>>>>
>>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 20:13:47 2008
>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>>
>>> Surely that's how it should be?  In production, the log should
>> only
>>> be logging errors when something has gone wrong with the
>>> application, as opposed to some user having failed to fill in a
>>> required field.
>>> It's only while you're trying to figure out why the submission isn't
>>> valid - presumably there's nothing on the screen to explain what is
>>> wrong - that you would want to see a failed submission in the logs.
>>> And if you want to see that then you'd enable debugging until you've
>>> got the form right.
>>>
>>> Just my tuppenceworth ...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave Mc
>>>
>>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>>
>>> In a recent build, this message is being thrown, but I
>> don't get
>>> anything using event('') or written to the log unless I'm debugging!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                XForms - submission -
>> xforms-submit-error
>>> throwable: org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.XFormsModelSubmission
>>> $XFormsSubmissionException: line 38 of oxf:/config/xforms-
>>> widgets.xsl
>>
>>> (checking instance validity): xforms:submission:
>>> instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or required model item
>>> properties.
>>>
>>> oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl, line 38, column -1:
>>> xforms:submission: instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or
>>> required model item properties.
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>>> .createDocumentToSubmit(XFormsModelSubmission.java:1265)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>>> .performDefaultAction(XFormsModelSubmission.java:532)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .XFormsContainingDocument
>>> .dispatchEvent(XFormsContainingDocument.java:1019)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf
>>> .xforms
>>> .control
>>> .controls
>>> .XFormsSubmitControl.performDefaultAction(XFormsSubmitControl.java:
>>> 49)
>>>
>>>                at
>>> org
>>> .orbeon
>>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>>
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> Fairly recent, although I'll try a more recent one soon
>
> I've checked the logging and it definitely failed due to validation
>
> Thanks
>
> Ryan
>
> -----------------------------------------------
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 18 December 2008 13:30
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG  
> statement should be ERROR
>
> You are using a recent build, right?
>
> With XForms logging on, you should see what's happening with the  
> submission. First this will help you make sure the submission fails  
> because of validation.
>
> -Erik
>
> On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>
>> It doesn't didn't return this
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Connectivity Developer
>> Fidessa LatentZero
>> 1 Old Jewry
>> London EC2R 8DN
>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1818
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>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:24
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement
>> should be ERROR
>>
>> Exactly!
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>
>>> Erik,
>>> I'm looking for information as to why the submission failed, in  
>>> this
>>> case, because the user hasn't filled out all the required fields.
>>>
>>> I guess in this case I would expect event('error-type') to return
>>> 'validation-error'
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>> Connectivity Developer
>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1818
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: 18 December 2008 11:01
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be
>>> ERROR
>>>
>>> Which information are you looking for exactly? We are implementing
>>> the context information described here:
>>>
>>> http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#submit-evt-submit-error
>>>
>>> -Erik
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:12 PM, Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>>
>>>> Its now a xforms 1.1 function so I would expect it to give me some
>>>> information
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps I'm expecting too much?
>>>>
>>>> Alex/Erik, any comment?
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>>> Connectivity Developer
>>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>>>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>>>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>>>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 21:24:58 2008
>>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid I haven't used the extended version of the event()
>>>> function, which provides the kind of context information you'd want
>>>> - all I really know is that it is documented at
>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-2#event-context
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I can't offer more help than that.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>>    I see your point with the logging, but also event() didn't
>>> return
>>>> anything helpful. How would I detect this error in code?
>>>>
>>>> Ryan
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>>> Connectivity Developer
>>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>>> Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458
>>>> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7105 1001
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>>>> Web: http://www.latentzero.com
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>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Dave McIntyre <[hidden email]>
>>>> <mailto:[hidden email]
>>>>>
>>>> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>>> Sent: Wed Dec 17 20:13:47 2008
>>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: DEBUG statement should be ERROR
>>>>
>>>> Surely that's how it should be?  In production, the log should
>>> only
>>>> be logging errors when something has gone wrong with the
>>>> application, as opposed to some user having failed to fill in a
>>>> required field.
>>>> It's only while you're trying to figure out why the submission  
>>>> isn't
>>>> valid - presumably there's nothing on the screen to explain what is
>>>> wrong - that you would want to see a failed submission in the logs.
>>>> And if you want to see that then you'd enable debugging until  
>>>> you've
>>>> got the form right.
>>>>
>>>> Just my tuppenceworth ...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Dave Mc
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Puddephatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In a recent build, this message is being thrown, but I
>>> don't get
>>>> anything using event('') or written to the log unless I'm  
>>>> debugging!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                XForms - submission -
>>> xforms-submit-error
>>>> throwable: org.orbeon.oxf.xforms.XFormsModelSubmission
>>>> $XFormsSubmissionException: line 38 of oxf:/config/xforms-
>>>> widgets.xsl
>>>
>>>> (checking instance validity): xforms:submission:
>>>> instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or required model  
>>>> item
>>>> properties.
>>>>
>>>> oxf:/config/xforms-widgets.xsl, line 38, column -1:
>>>> xforms:submission: instance to submit does not satisfy valid and/or
>>>> required model item properties.
>>>>
>>>>                at
>>>> org
>>>> .orbeon
>>>> .oxf
>>>> .xforms
>>>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>>>> .createDocumentToSubmit(XFormsModelSubmission.java:1265)
>>>>
>>>>                at
>>>> org
>>>> .orbeon
>>>> .oxf
>>>> .xforms
>>>> .XFormsModelSubmission
>>>> .performDefaultAction(XFormsModelSubmission.java:532)
>>>>
>>>>                at
>>>> org
>>>> .orbeon
>>>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>>>
>>>>                at
>>>> org
>>>> .orbeon
>>>> .oxf
>>>> .xforms
>>>> .XFormsContainingDocument
>>>> .dispatchEvent(XFormsContainingDocument.java:1019)
>>>>
>>>>                at
>>>> org
>>>> .orbeon
>>>> .oxf
>>>> .xforms
>>>> .control
>>>> .controls
>>>> .XFormsSubmitControl.performDefaultAction(XFormsSubmitControl.java:
>>>> 49)
>>>>
>>>>                at
>>>> org
>>>> .orbeon
>>>> .oxf.xforms.XFormsContainer.dispatchEvent(XFormsContainer.java:791)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Ryan Puddephatt
>>>>
>>>> Connectivity Consultant
>>>>
>>>> Fidessa LatentZero
>>>>
>>>> 1 Old Jewry
>>>>
>>>> London EC2R 8DN
>>>>
>>>> Office: +44 (0) 20 7105 1000
>>>>
>>>> Direct: +44 (0) 20 7105 1812
>>>>
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