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Jean Luc-2

web site speed

Hi Erik,

Are there any plans to host the binary releases on a faster server? I
know it's a delicate balance between performance and cost, but ...
downloading the latest build is currently estimated at taking 33
minutes, too much for a 40MB-file (I've also experience many load
times of around 30 seconds or more for the government forms sample
page on www.orbeon.com). Having experienced it for weeks now, it's
clearly something that's not specific to my Internet connection
(pretty fast at office).

Perhaps if the releases are hosted elsewhere, the load on the main
server will be lower.

Thanks,
JL

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Erik Bruchez

Re: web site speed

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Jean-Luc,

The builds are hosted by the OW2 consortium, and I assume their main
server is located in France. From the US, I am downloading builds at
over 70 KB/s, which is not perfect but not as bad as what you are
describing. So I wonder where the difference comes from. Could it be
that the OW2 server is slower at certain times during the day?

We do not have plans to move builds to another server at the moment,
unless this turns out to be a generalized problem.

The online Government Forms example is another matter. It is hosted on
another server, but it should definitely not take 30s to load. Do
other people in the mailing-list observe such horrible load times?

-Erik

On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Jean Luc wrote:

> Hi Erik,
>
> Are there any plans to host the binary releases on a faster server? I
> know it's a delicate balance between performance and cost, but ...
> downloading the latest build is currently estimated at taking 33
> minutes, too much for a 40MB-file (I've also experience many load
> times of around 30 seconds or more for the government forms sample
> page on www.orbeon.com). Having experienced it for weeks now, it's
> clearly something that's not specific to my Internet connection
> (pretty fast at office).
>
> Perhaps if the releases are hosted elsewhere, the load on the main
> server will be lower.
>
> Thanks,
> JL
>
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Jean Luc-2

Re: web site speed

BTW, I've just tried from another ISP: the first time I hit
http://www.orbeon.com/ops/forms/ with a given browser it takes about
20s, the subsequent times about 12s (so some caching is involved,
likely more JS, as images are very few on that page).

On Nov 23, 2007 2:07 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jean-Luc,
>
> The builds are hosted by the OW2 consortium, and I assume their main
> server is located in France. From the US, I am downloading builds at
> over 70 KB/s, which is not perfect but not as bad as what you are
> describing. So I wonder where the difference comes from. Could it be
> that the OW2 server is slower at certain times during the day?
>
> We do not have plans to move builds to another server at the moment,
> unless this turns out to be a generalized problem.
>
> The online Government Forms example is another matter. It is hosted on
> another server, but it should definitely not take 30s to load. Do
> other people in the mailing-list observe such horrible load times?
>
> -Erik
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Jean Luc wrote:
>
> > Hi Erik,
> >
> > Are there any plans to host the binary releases on a faster server? I
> > know it's a delicate balance between performance and cost, but ...
> > downloading the latest build is currently estimated at taking 33
> > minutes, too much for a 40MB-file (I've also experience many load
> > times of around 30 seconds or more for the government forms sample
> > page on www.orbeon.com). Having experienced it for weeks now, it's
> > clearly something that's not specific to my Internet connection
> > (pretty fast at office).
> >
> > Perhaps if the releases are hosted elsewhere, the load on the main
> > server will be lower.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > JL
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Daniel E. Renfer

Re: web site speed

Using my super scientific timing method, the page was fully loaded by the time I got to "four one thousand"

On 11/24/07, Jean Luc <[hidden email]> wrote:

BTW, I've just tried from another ISP: the first time I hit
http://www.orbeon.com/ops/forms/ with a given browser it takes about
20s, the subsequent times about 12s (so some caching is involved,
likely more JS, as images are very few on that page).

On Nov 23, 2007 2:07 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Jean-Luc,
>
> The builds are hosted by the OW2 consortium, and I assume their main
> server is located in France. From the US, I am downloading builds at
> over 70 KB/s, which is not perfect but not as bad as what you are
> describing. So I wonder where the difference comes from. Could it be
> that the OW2 server is slower at certain times during the day?
>
> We do not have plans to move builds to another server at the moment,
> unless this turns out to be a generalized problem.
>
> The online Government Forms example is another matter. It is hosted on
> another server, but it should definitely not take 30s to load. Do
> other people in the mailing-list observe such horrible load times?
>
> -Erik
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Jean Luc wrote:
>
> > Hi Erik,
> >
> > Are there any plans to host the binary releases on a faster server? I
> > know it's a delicate balance between performance and cost, but ...

> > downloading the latest build is currently estimated at taking 33
> > minutes, too much for a 40MB-file (I've also experience many load
> > times of around 30 seconds or more for the government forms sample
> > page on www.orbeon.com). Having experienced it for weeks now, it's
> > clearly something that's not specific to my Internet connection
> > (pretty fast at office).
> >
> > Perhaps if the releases are hosted elsewhere, the load on the main
> > server will be lower.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > JL
> >
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NJ No1

Date Arithmetic

Hi gang,

My problem:

I have a date value which is inputted by the user in the following format: yyyy/mm/dd HH:mm

I also have a value which holds the current time in the same format.

I am trying to find the best way to determine if the date inputted by the user is > (currentTime – 10mins).

I tried a few different tricks with concatenating and comparing but it was getting way to complex, does anyone have any smart ideas?

Thanks

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Adrian Baker

Re: Date Arithmetic

Cast your dates into xs:date/xs:dateTime types, then use the XSLT date arithmetic functions.

Naman Joshi wrote:

Hi gang,

My problem:

I have a date value which is inputted by the user in the following format: yyyy/mm/dd HH:mm

I also have a value which holds the current time in the same format.

I am trying to find the best way to determine if the date inputted by the user is > (currentTime – 10mins).

I tried a few different tricks with concatenating and comparing but it was getting way to complex, does anyone have any smart ideas?

Thanks

NJ

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Alexander Žaťko

Re: Date Arithmetic

In reply to this post by NJ No1

I dug something similar on the web that does not require XSLT - everything is done by the XForms engine's built-in XPath. This code checks if the entered date is "before today". I think it should be easy to adapt the code for your needs.

<xforms:bind

nodeset="instance('main')/date"

type="xs:date"

constraint="if (. castable as xs:date)

then current-date() + xdt:dayTimeDuration('P1D') >= xs:date(.)

else false()"

readonly="false()"/>

the xdt namespace declaration is:

xmlns:xdt="http://www.w3.org/2005/xpath-datatypes

On Nov 26, 2007, at 1:29 AM, Naman Joshi wrote:

Hi gang,

My problem:
I have a date value which is inputted by the user in the following format: yyyy/mm/dd HH:mm
I also have a value which holds the current time in the same format.

I am trying to find the best way to determine if the date inputted by the user is > (currentTime – 10mins).

I tried a few different tricks with concatenating and comparing but it was getting way to complex, does anyone have any smart ideas?

Thanks
NJ
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Erik Bruchez

Re: web site speed

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In reply to this post by Jean Luc-2

Thanks for the feedback. That remains extraordinarily slow. The first
hit does require quit a number of JavaScript files to be loaded, but
the value for further hits seems ridiculously bad.

There have been in the past some issues with reverse DNS lookups
slowing down queries (until a timeout occurs after a few seconds).
This may or may not occur depending on where the client is located. I
wonder if something similar could be happening here.

-Erik

On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Jean Luc wrote:

> BTW, I've just tried from another ISP: the first time I hit
> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/forms/ with a given browser it takes about
> 20s, the subsequent times about 12s (so some caching is involved,
> likely more JS, as images are very few on that page).
>
> On Nov 23, 2007 2:07 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Jean-Luc,
>>
>> The builds are hosted by the OW2 consortium, and I assume their main
>> server is located in France. From the US, I am downloading builds at
>> over 70 KB/s, which is not perfect but not as bad as what you are
>> describing. So I wonder where the difference comes from. Could it be
>> that the OW2 server is slower at certain times during the day?
>>
>> We do not have plans to move builds to another server at the moment,
>> unless this turns out to be a generalized problem.
>>
>> The online Government Forms example is another matter. It is hosted
>> on
>> another server, but it should definitely not take 30s to load. Do
>> other people in the mailing-list observe such horrible load times?
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Jean Luc wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Erik,
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to host the binary releases on a faster
>>> server? I
>>> know it's a delicate balance between performance and cost, but ...
>>> downloading the latest build is currently estimated at taking 33
>>> minutes, too much for a 40MB-file (I've also experience many load
>>> times of around 30 seconds or more for the government forms sample
>>> page on www.orbeon.com). Having experienced it for weeks now, it's
>>> clearly something that's not specific to my Internet connection
>>> (pretty fast at office).
>>>
>>> Perhaps if the releases are hosted elsewhere, the load on the main
>>> server will be lower.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> JL
>>>
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NJ No1

RE: Date Arithmetic

In reply to this post by Alexander Žaťko

Thanks Alex. FYI I used dayTimeDuration(‘PT10M’)

From: Alexander Zatko [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2007 5:21 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Date Arithmetic

<xforms:bind

nodeset="instance('main')/date"

type="xs:date"

constraint="if (. castable as xs:date)

then current-date() + xdt:dayTimeDuration('P1D') >= xs:date(.)

else false()"

readonly="false()"/>

the xdt namespace declaration is:

xmlns:xdt="http://www.w3.org/2005/xpath-datatypes

On Nov 26, 2007, at 1:29 AM, Naman Joshi wrote:

Hi gang,

My problem:

I have a date value which is inputted by the user in the following format: yyyy/mm/dd HH:mm

I also have a value which holds the current time in the same format.

I am trying to find the best way to determine if the date inputted by the user is > (currentTime – 10mins).

I tried a few different tricks with concatenating and comparing but it was getting way to complex, does anyone have any smart ideas?

Thanks

NOTICE

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