unclean HTML?

> How are people dealing with using Orbeon Forms from JSP that  
> contains plain old messy, real-world HTML?
>
> I'm trying to work XForms into an existing application that uses !
> DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd 
> ".  Orbeon (or more precisely whatever it uses to parse XML)  
> strongly dislikes the content of loose.dtd, since it barfs  
> processing it.  It dislikes the strict DTD as well.  If I remove the  
> DTD references entirely, then I get farther but even relatively  
> innocuous things like ampersand-nbsp-semicolon trip up the processing.
>
> I understand why Orbeon wants to see proper XHTML, but the reality  
> is that there's a lot of old junk out there.  In my case there are  
> hundreds of JSPs including each other all over the place, with lots  
> of cruft that just happens to work and so hasn't been touched in  
> years.  What is the most practical way to deal with this situation?
>
> Thanks,
>     Sean
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> Sean Hogan
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> Good idea.
>
> How things work now:
>
> * Filter stores JSP output as String into request
> * xforms-renderer.xpl runs
> * oxf:scope-generator reads String and tries to parse it as XML.
>
> One idea would be to allow oxf:scope-generator to support "tag soup"
> input and to clean the HTML with a recent version of TagSoup (JAR is
> actually already checked into our CVS), which I think is able to keep
> foreign elements (and maybe attributes).
>
> It would be great if you could give this a try.
>
> -Erik
>
> On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Sean Hogan (CLIXtec) wrote:
>
>> How are people dealing with using Orbeon Forms from JSP that
>> contains plain old messy, real-world HTML?
>>
>> I'm trying to work XForms into an existing application that uses !
>> DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd
>> ".  Orbeon (or more precisely whatever it uses to parse XML)
>> strongly dislikes the content of loose.dtd, since it barfs
>> processing it.  It dislikes the strict DTD as well.  If I remove the
>> DTD references entirely, then I get farther but even relatively
>> innocuous things like ampersand-nbsp-semicolon trip up the processing.
>>
>> I understand why Orbeon wants to see proper XHTML, but the reality
>> is that there's a lot of old junk out there.  In my case there are
>> hundreds of JSPs including each other all over the place, with lots
>> of cruft that just happens to work and so hasn't been touched in
>> years.  What is the most practical way to deal with this situation?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>     Sean
>> ---
>> Sean Hogan
>> CLIXtec IT Consulting Inc.
>> m: (709) 687-2275
>> e: [hidden email]
>> e: [hidden email]
>> w: http://clixtec.ca
>>
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> "Good idea"?  I don't think I made any constructive suggestions -  
> though I like yours. :-)  Unfortunately I don't have the Orbeon  
> Forms background (yet) to make that sort of change.  Since this is  
> only a proof of concept for the project on which I'm consulting, I  
> may need to back out and take a different approach.
>
> Regards,
>   Sean
>
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> From: "Erik Bruchez" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:16 PM
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: unclean HTML?
>
>> Good idea.
>>
>> How things work now:
>>
>> * Filter stores JSP output as String into request
>> * xforms-renderer.xpl runs
>> * oxf:scope-generator reads String and tries to parse it as XML.
>>
>> One idea would be to allow oxf:scope-generator to support "tag soup"
>> input and to clean the HTML with a recent version of TagSoup (JAR is
>> actually already checked into our CVS), which I think is able to keep
>> foreign elements (and maybe attributes).
>>
>> It would be great if you could give this a try.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Sean Hogan (CLIXtec) wrote:
>>
>>> How are people dealing with using Orbeon Forms from JSP that
>>> contains plain old messy, real-world HTML?
>>>
>>> I'm trying to work XForms into an existing application that uses !
>>> DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd
>>> ".  Orbeon (or more precisely whatever it uses to parse XML)
>>> strongly dislikes the content of loose.dtd, since it barfs
>>> processing it.  It dislikes the strict DTD as well.  If I remove the
>>> DTD references entirely, then I get farther but even relatively
>>> innocuous things like ampersand-nbsp-semicolon trip up the  
>>> processing.
>>>
>>> I understand why Orbeon wants to see proper XHTML, but the reality
>>> is that there's a lot of old junk out there.  In my case there are
>>> hundreds of JSPs including each other all over the place, with lots
>>> of cruft that just happens to work and so hasn't been touched in
>>> years.  What is the most practical way to deal with this situation?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>    Sean
>>> ---
>>> Sean Hogan
>>> CLIXtec IT Consulting Inc.
>>> m: (709) 687-2275
>>> e: [hidden email]
>>> e: [hidden email]
>>> w: http://clixtec.ca
>>>
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> Hi Erik/Orbeon,
>
> Do you have any indication of the 3.7 release date?
>
> Cheers,
> Trond
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