Funnily enough, W3C just announced their new validation service today, see:

http://www.w3.org/News/2012#entry-9353
http://validator.w3.org/nu/

It uses the same validation software I was pointing at in my previous message.

-Erik

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Antek,
>
> In our opinion the W3C validator is needlessly restrictive.
>
> With regards to ids, for example: HTML 5 is relaxing the characters
> you can put in the id attribute (pretty much allowing anything in
> there as there is no reason not to). Also, every HTML element can
> support id, as it should be (but the W3C validator reports errors for
> those). And of course there is more.
>
> You could change  the code in Orbeon Forms to replace the "$" with
> something else, but that would require recompiling the source code.
>
> Now on the other hand I think that what this HTML 5 validator is
> reporting is interesting:
>
> http://html5.validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orbeon.com%2Forbeon%2Ffr%2Forbeon%2Fdmv-14%2Fedit%2F6b01fa4cd1605b8f736fac09be6cf9b2
>
> It reports 51 errors and 12 warnings (if I counted right), most of
> them being "Element div not allowed as child of element span in". We
> are aware of this one and should definitely fix it, although browsers
> deal with this without any problem.
>
> We are likely to address that kind of HTML 5 issues as we go, but
> unfortunately unlikely to make lots of efforts to comply with the W3C
> validator.
>
> On the topic of accessibility, we are aware that some governments in
> particular have some pretty strict rules. Unfortunately sometimes they
> do not reflect how screen readers actually deal with web pages (for
> example, JAWS has no issues with ids containing "$").
>
> -Erik
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Antek Jaworski <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi  all,
>>
>> We're trying to comply to guidelines for accessibility on our forms and
>> we're facing a couple of validation issues after using
>> http://validator.w3.org/.
>>
>> For example, this can be seen if you try to validate the DMV-14 demo form
>> using this url:
>> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.orbeon.com%2Forbeon%2Ffr%2Forbeon%2Fdmv-14%2Fedit%2F6b01fa4cd1605b8f736fac09be6cf9b2&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
>>
>> One of the issues is the use of a dollar sign $ in the "ID" attribute.
>> Line 159, Column 450: character "$" is not allowed in the value of attribute
>> "ID"
>>
>> Are there possibilities to bypass this?
>>
>> Another question: to what extend are you trying to resolve the validation
>> errors that the W3C validator shows?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Antek
>>
>>
>>
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