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FParsons
Hi! I've looked at there articles:

http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/doc/developer-guide/xbl-components/spell-checker

http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/projects/xforms-fields-spell-checking

the developer guide article (the first link) says:
"By default, the component uses the Google spell checker service" (however, I wasn't able to get this to work)

The second article is about a project, but it is not dated and I don't know if this is obsolete.  However it mentions using a spell checking library.

So - can I currently use the spell-checking (xbl) component with a java spell check library such as Jazzy? (I'd prefer that the spell checking component be a service that resides locally than a web server I have no control over!)

Is spell-checking something still very much in development? Are there any further articles about this?

-- Francis
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Re: spell checking with Orbeon

Alessandro  Vernet
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Francis,

The second link is obsolete, and I added a note about this at the top
of the page. What is the issue you had using the Google service? Do
you see any error in the orbeon.log when you click on the spell
checker button?

If you want to use Jazzy, you need to write a REST front-end that
calls Jazzy, like the one we have for the Spellex library:

http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/community/contributions/spellex-spell-checking

Alex

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:49 PM, FParsons <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi! I've looked at there articles:
>
> http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/doc/developer-guide/xbl-components/spell-checker
>
> http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/projects/xforms-fields-spell-checking
>
> the developer guide article (the first link) says:
> "By default, the component uses the Google spell checker service" (however,
> I wasn't able to get this to work)
>
> The second article is about a project, but it is not dated and I don't know
> if this is obsolete.  However it mentions using a spell checking library.
>
> So - can I currently use the spell-checking (xbl) component with a java
> spell check library such as Jazzy? (I'd prefer that the spell checking
> component be a service that resides locally than a web server I have no
> control over!)
>
> Is spell-checking something still very much in development? Are there any
> further articles about this?
>
>
>
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Re: spell checking with Orbeon

FParsons
Alex -

As far as the google spell-check service not working, I later tried my application on my home PC, and found that it worked. (Work: IE 7 Win XP 32, Home: IE 8, Win 7 x64). At work I'm on a government intranet and I imagine that this might be blocked somewhere.

I don't know if this is informative or not, but I did enable logging in Orbeon and was able to see this in orbeon.log:


2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start dispatching {name: "xforms-submit", id: "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}
2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start default action handler
2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - start submission {id: "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}
2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start dispatching {name: "xforms-submit-serialize", id: "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}
2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start default action handler
2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - end default action handler {time (ms): "0"}
2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - end dispatching {time (ms): "0", name: "xforms-submit-serialize", id: "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}


I haven't tried this at home yet to compare the logs.

I haven't yet tried downloading a Spell-ex trial to see if I can make it work. It's disappointing that it doesn't seem like there's many open-source alternatives, and Jazzy doesn't seem have much development going on.

Has anyone tried Orbeon forms with the various browser plug-in spell-check products available? Would this work with the HTML edit field? A server-based product has the maintenance advantage, but I don't know if any allow users to store their own custom dictionaries (I'm not really sure yet if this would be an issue. We do have users that need medical terminology and the usual galaxy of government acronyms.)
-- Francis
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Alessandro  Vernet
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Francis,

Pretty much all the browsers, except IE, come with a built-in spell
checker. If it is an option, you might just recommend that your user
pick a browser other than IE and they will get a spell checker (as
well as a number of other benefits!).

Alex

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:48 AM, FParsons <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Alex -
>
> As far as the google spell-check service not working, I later tried my
> application on my home PC, and found that it worked. (Work: IE 7 Win XP 32,
> Home: IE 8, Win 7 x64). At work I'm on a government intranet and I imagine
> that this might be blocked somewhere.
>
> I don't know if this is informative or not, but I did enable logging in
> Orbeon and was able to see this in orbeon.log:
>
>
> 2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start
> dispatching {name: "xforms-submit", id: "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}
> 2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start default
> action handler
> 2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - start submission {id:
> "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}
> 2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start
> dispatching {name: "xforms-submit-serialize", id:
> "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}
> 2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - start default
> action handler
> 2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - end default
> action handler {time (ms): "0"}
> 2010-06-25 12:32:26,173 DEBUG XFormsServer  - dispatchEvent - end
> dispatching {time (ms): "0", name: "xforms-submit-serialize", id:
> "xf-63$spell-check-submission"}
>
>
> I haven't tried this at home yet to compare the logs.
>
> I haven't yet tried downloading a Spell-ex trial to see if I can make it
> work. It's disappointing that it doesn't seem like there's many open-source
> alternatives, and Jazzy doesn't seem have much development going on.
>
> Has anyone tried Orbeon forms with the various browser plug-in spell-check
> products available? Would this work with the HTML edit field? A server-based
> product has the maintenance advantage, but I don't know if any allow users
> to store their own custom dictionaries (I'm not really sure yet if this
> would be an issue. We do have users that need medical terminology and the
> usual galaxy of government acronyms.)
>
>
> -----
> -- Francis
> --
> View this message in context: http://orbeon-forms-ops-users.24843.n4.nabble.com/spell-checking-with-Orbeon-tp2237960p2268676.html
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>
>
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Re: Re: spell checking with Orbeon

FParsons
Alessandro Vernet wrote
Pretty much all the browsers, except IE, come with a built-in spell
checker.
Yes, unfortunately our agency doesn't actually own and control the network and PC's we're using, the federal government  does and unfortunately they will only support IE (at least we're not using IE 6 anymore!).  

The issue of spell-checking in the browser hasn't really been brought up yet, as we're not really using xforms right now (We're actually using VB + MS Word for forms - uggh!! - an ugly system I very much I'd like to have replaced). I'm really just working on a 'demo' for the powers that be so that they have some idea what xforms can do.
-- Francis