orbeon constraints

>
> Hi,
>
> Orbeon constraints were well featured at
> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-ng yet they are not
> implemented in 3.7.0.beta.
>
> Any other way scripting Xpath has failed me, and looking at both the DMV
> and Wizard w/ Switch puzzle me. Why don't the validation constraints
> display? Has it to do with schema recognition?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- einar
>

> It seems like the red background has been removed.
> As for the '!' it will only be shown if an xforms:alert has been  
> defined for that input.
> I do not know if this is the way it should be or not.
>
> Will this be corrected or do I have to go over all my pages to check  
> all fields.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Antoine
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leifneve [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:48 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [ops-users] Re: orbeon constraints
>
>
>
> I'm having the same problem with 3.7beta 1. Required form fields  
> don't show
> the red background
> or the '!' mark. Even your own xforms-bookcast demo doesn't work in  
> this
> regard despite what
> you claim in the tutorial.  I'm also unclear on whether you are even
> acknowledging there is a problem.
> Thanks. -Leif
>
>
> parisiana wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Orbeon constraints were well featured at
>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-ng yet they are not
>> implemented in 3.7.0.beta.
>>
>> Any other way scripting Xpath has failed me, and looking at both  
>> the DMV
>> and Wizard w/ Switch puzzle me. Why don't the validation constraints
>> display? Has it to do with schema recognition?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -- einar
>>
>
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> The way the XForms engine produces markup has changed a little bit.
>
> The XForms engine used to produce an HTML <label> element representing an
> alert even if you didn't have an <xforms:alert> element for the control. The
> same goes for <xforms:label>, <xforms:hint>, and <xforms:help>: if you don't
> have those elements in your form, then the XForms engine does not generate
> HTML markup to represent those elements.
>
> Compare with this 100% client-side XForms, where if you wanted to style an
> <xforms:alert> element, well, you would need the <xforms:alert> element to
> be present on the page. No <xforms:alert>, no styling of <xforms:alert>.
>
> One rationale behind not producing those elements is that this way we can
> generate slightly smaller pages.
>
> Now this does impact the "!" icon, because that icon is produced with CSS
> applied to the HTML <label>. So no <label>, no "!" icon. This is I think an
> unintended consequence. So somehow, we need to restore this capability, and
> I have entered a bug to track this:
>
> http://forge.objectweb.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=311244&group_id=168&atid=350207
>
> In the meanwhile, you can enter empty <xforms:alert> elements for those
> controls. Not nice, but it will work.
>
> -Erik
>
> On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:13 AM, <[hidden email]>
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> It seems like the red background has been removed.
>> As for the '!' it will only be shown if an xforms:alert has been defined
>> for that input.
>> I do not know if this is the way it should be or not.
>>
>> Will this be corrected or do I have to go over all my pages to check all
>> fields.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: leifneve [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:48 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: orbeon constraints
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm having the same problem with 3.7beta 1. Required form fields don't
>> show
>> the red background
>> or the '!' mark. Even your own xforms-bookcast demo doesn't work in this
>> regard despite what
>> you claim in the tutorial.  I'm also unclear on whether you are even
>> acknowledging there is a problem.
>> Thanks. -Leif
>>
>>
>> parisiana wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Orbeon constraints were well featured at
>>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-ng yet they are not
>>> implemented in 3.7.0.beta.
>>>
>>> Any other way scripting Xpath has failed me, and looking at both the DMV
>>> and Wizard w/ Switch puzzle me. Why don't the validation constraints
>>> display? Has it to do with schema recognition?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -- einar
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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>

> Thank you, Erik,
>
> This is a perfect simple solution.
>
> My suggestion would be to add to your documentation publishing dates
> (http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/), which I find helpful in following
> your changes documentation
> (http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/home-changes-37) of your progressive
> orbeon development.
>
> Cheers
>
> -- einar
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> The way the XForms engine produces markup has changed a little bit.
>>
>> The XForms engine used to produce an HTML <label> element  
>> representing an
>> alert even if you didn't have an <xforms:alert> element for the  
>> control. The
>> same goes for <xforms:label>, <xforms:hint>, and <xforms:help>: if  
>> you don't
>> have those elements in your form, then the XForms engine does not  
>> generate
>> HTML markup to represent those elements.
>>
>> Compare with this 100% client-side XForms, where if you wanted to  
>> style an
>> <xforms:alert> element, well, you would need the <xforms:alert>  
>> element to
>> be present on the page. No <xforms:alert>, no styling of  
>> <xforms:alert>.
>>
>> One rationale behind not producing those elements is that this way  
>> we can
>> generate slightly smaller pages.
>>
>> Now this does impact the "!" icon, because that icon is produced  
>> with CSS
>> applied to the HTML <label>. So no <label>, no "!" icon. This is I  
>> think an
>> unintended consequence. So somehow, we need to restore this  
>> capability, and
>> I have entered a bug to track this:
>>
>> http://forge.objectweb.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=311244&group_id=168&atid=350207
>>
>> In the meanwhile, you can enter empty <xforms:alert> elements for  
>> those
>> controls. Not nice, but it will work.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:13 AM, <[hidden email]
>> >
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems like the red background has been removed.
>>> As for the '!' it will only be shown if an xforms:alert has been  
>>> defined
>>> for that input.
>>> I do not know if this is the way it should be or not.
>>>
>>> Will this be corrected or do I have to go over all my pages to  
>>> check all
>>> fields.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Antoine
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: leifneve [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:48 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: [ops-users] Re: orbeon constraints
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm having the same problem with 3.7beta 1. Required form fields  
>>> don't
>>> show
>>> the red background
>>> or the '!' mark. Even your own xforms-bookcast demo doesn't work  
>>> in this
>>> regard despite what
>>> you claim in the tutorial.  I'm also unclear on whether you are even
>>> acknowledging there is a problem.
>>> Thanks. -Leif
>>>
>>>
>>> parisiana wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Orbeon constraints were well featured at
>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/reference-xforms-ng yet they are not
>>>> implemented in 3.7.0.beta.
>>>>
>>>> Any other way scripting Xpath has failed me, and looking at both  
>>>> the DMV
>>>> and Wizard w/ Switch puzzle me. Why don't the validation  
>>>> constraints
>>>> display? Has it to do with schema recognition?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -- einar
>>>>
>>>
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>>> Nabble.com.
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>> http://www.orbeon.com/
>>
>>
>>
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