language-aware date on output

Hi,

I recently saw a reason to get back on this.

xxforms:lang() does not seem to work in xpath expressions in forms made using form builder. Is this normal?

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Koen Vanderkimpen
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From:        Koen Vanderkimpen/Smals
To:        [hidden email]
Date:        21/08/2012 14:24
Subject:        Re: [ops-users] Re: language-aware date on output

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Hi Eric,

So will the dates be language-aware in the next release?


In the mean time, I still have to use 3.9, so what's a simple syntax to make the dates purely numerical?

Thx,


Koen Vanderkimpen
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From:        Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email]
Date:        31/07/2012 21:32
Subject:        [ops-users] Re: language-aware date on output
Sent by:        [hidden email]

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Koen,

Good point. What we had in mind at some point was to introduce new properties taking the language into consideration.

However, since then we have added the xxforms:lang() function. And I think that it's better to simply use that function in the existing properties. So, I have done just this, and as you have noticed, there is an issue with an undeclared prefix. So I have also fixed that and committed a change which makes the formats properties language aware.

https://github.com/orbeon/orbeon-forms/commit/120950543143db2b9427c60e901ec5ac7eb98542

In order for this to work, there must be an xml:lang attribute in the form. You can place that attribute on the root element of the document for example.

-Erik

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'm trying to use the properties-local.xml to configure what dates look like in the output. Here's what I have what works:

<property as="xs:string"  name="oxf.xforms.format.output.*.*.date"          value="if (. castable as xs:date) then format-date(xs:date(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
<property as="xs:string"  name="oxf.xforms.format.output.*.*.dateTime"   value="if (. castable as xs:dateTime) then format-dateTime(xs:dateTime(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [H01]:[m01]:[s01] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
<property as="xs:string"  name="oxf.xforms.format.output.date"               value="if (. castable as xs:date) then format-date(xs:date(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
<property as="xs:string" name="oxf.xforms.format.output.dateTime"        value="if (. castable as xs:dateTime) then format-dateTime(xs:dateTime(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [H01]:[m01]:[s01] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
   
However, the date always shows in english ("Saturday ..."). Obviously, this is because of the 'en' argument, but I can't figure out how to make this argument dynamic, so that it uses the currently active language in the form.

I tried lang(), but it expects an argument
I tried xxforms:lang(), but it complains about xxforms not being declared
I tried the variable $fr-language, but that doesn't here either


How can I make the date on outputs, like pdf, multi-language?


Sincerely



Koen Vanderkimpen

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Hi,

It's 3.9.1PE, and we would like to use it in xpath expressions in calculated output fields, to internationalize them (normally, only the label is internationalized, but we need a dynamic field, or at least one that will allow html code instead of mere strings).

As a workaround, we use xxforms:instance(fr-language-instance), but this variable only gets initialized after explicitly switching the language, while we need something that works from the moment a form is loaded, using ../new?fr-language=xx .

Bye,


Koen Vanderkimpen
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From:        Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email]

Date:        10/10/2012 06:30
Subject:        [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: language-aware date on output
Sent by:        [hidden email]

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Hi,

No, it's not normal! Where do you use the function, and with what version of Form Builder?

-Erik

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:44 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I recently saw a reason to get back on this.

xxforms:lang() does not seem to work in xpath expressions in forms made using form builder. Is this normal?

Bye,


Koen Vanderkimpen
Research/Recherche/Onderzoek

Connect:

"there are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors" (Phil Karlton et al)





From:        Koen Vanderkimpen/Smals
To:        [hidden email]
Date:        21/08/2012 14:24
Subject:        Re: [ops-users] Re: language-aware date on output

---

Hi Eric,

So will the dates be language-aware in the next release?


In the mean time, I still have to use 3.9, so what's a simple syntax to make the dates purely numerical?

Thx,


Koen Vanderkimpen
Research/Recherche/Onderzoek

Connect:

From:        Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>
To:        [hidden email]
Date:        31/07/2012 21:32
Subject:        [ops-users] Re: language-aware date on output
Sent by:        [hidden email]

---

Koen,

Good point. What we had in mind at some point was to introduce new properties taking the language into consideration.

However, since then we have added the xxforms:lang() function. And I think that it's better to simply use that function in the existing properties. So, I have done just this, and as you have noticed, there is an issue with an undeclared prefix. So I have also fixed that and committed a change which makes the formats properties language aware.

https://github.com/orbeon/orbeon-forms/commit/120950543143db2b9427c60e901ec5ac7eb98542

In order for this to work, there must be an xml:lang attribute in the form. You can place that attribute on the root element of the document for example.

-Erik

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:45 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I'm trying to use the properties-local.xml to configure what dates look like in the output. Here's what I have what works:

<property as="xs:string"  name="oxf.xforms.format.output.*.*.date"          value="if (. castable as xs:date) then format-date(xs:date(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
<property as="xs:string"  name="oxf.xforms.format.output.*.*.dateTime"   value="if (. castable as xs:dateTime) then format-dateTime(xs:dateTime(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [H01]:[m01]:[s01] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
<property as="xs:string"  name="oxf.xforms.format.output.date"               value="if (. castable as xs:date) then format-date(xs:date(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
<property as="xs:string" name="oxf.xforms.format.output.dateTime"        value="if (. castable as xs:dateTime) then format-dateTime(xs:dateTime(.), '[FNn] [D] [MNn], [Y] [H01]:[m01]:[s01] [ZN]', 'en', (), ()) else ."/>
   
However, the date always shows in english ("Saturday ..."). Obviously, this is because of the 'en' argument, but I can't figure out how to make this argument dynamic, so that it uses the currently active language in the form.

I tried lang(), but it expects an argument
I tried xxforms:lang(), but it complains about xxforms not being declared
I tried the variable $fr-language, but that doesn't here either


How can I make the date on outputs, like pdf, multi-language?


Sincerely



Koen Vanderkimpen

Connect:

[hidden email]
IT Consulent - Sectie Onderzoek
Afdeling Klanten en Diensten
Smals -
www.smals.be
Tel. <a href="tel:%2B32%202%20787%204670" target="_blank">+32 2 787 4670
Fonsnylaan 20, lokaal 4-101
1060 Brussel

	Overeenkomstig de bepalingen inzake de vertegenwoordiging van de vzw in haar statuten, kan enkel de gedelegeerde bestuurder, de algemeen directeur of zijn uitdrukkelijke lasthebber verbintenissen aangaan namens Smals. Indien dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, verzoeken wij u dit onmiddellijk aan ons te melden en het bericht te vernietigen. Conformément aux dispositions relatives à la représentation de l'asbl dans ses statuts, seul l'administrateur délégué, le directeur général ou son mandataire exprès est habilité à souscrire des engagements au nom de Smals. Si ce message ne vous est pas destiné, nous vous prions de nous le signaler immédiatement et de détruire le message. According to the provisions regarding representation of the non profit association in its bylaws, only the chief executive officer, the general manager or his explicit agent can enter into engagements on behalf of Smals. If you are not the addressee of this message, we kindly ask you to signal this to us immediately and to delete the message.

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	Overeenkomstig de bepalingen inzake de vertegenwoordiging van de vzw in haar statuten, kan enkel de gedelegeerde bestuurder, de algemeen directeur of zijn uitdrukkelijke lasthebber verbintenissen aangaan namens Smals. Indien dit bericht niet voor u bestemd is, verzoeken wij u dit onmiddellijk aan ons te melden en het bericht te vernietigen. Conformément aux dispositions relatives à la représentation de l'asbl dans ses statuts, seul l'administrateur délégué, le directeur général ou son mandataire exprès est habilité à souscrire des engagements au nom de Smals. Si ce message ne vous est pas destiné, nous vous prions de nous le signaler immédiatement et de détruire le message. According to the provisions regarding representation of the non profit association in its bylaws, only the chief executive officer, the general manager or his explicit agent can enter into engagements on behalf of Smals. If you are not the addressee of this message, we kindly ask you to signal this to us immediately and to delete the message.

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