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Re: input field to the right of calendar icon not visible

Erik Bruchez
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Thanks for the update. So do you plan to work on fixing these issues  
with the text field?

What I was saying was that if the text field doesn't work, then we  
could disable it in a first phase.

-Erik

On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:38 PM, XGuy wrote:

>
> Hi Erik
> The current visual appearance is intact, which means that I have a  
> calendar
> icon sitting on top of the text field and writing its usual date  
> string in
> the space next to it. But this action also writes an ISO date format  
> value
> into the text field.
> You are right about the fact that users will not want the ISO date  
> format at
> all. So the next step would be to format it to a usable one!!
>
> The text field that I have now allows me to highlight the value with  
> my
> mouse and delete it. But it does not let me delete it with the  
> delete key or
> the backspace key. (in fact kayak.com does all this).
>
>
>
>
> Erik Bruchez wrote:
>>
>> Looks like a good start!
>>
>> Regarding how to make the text entry useful: I think the text entry
>> should support the two main formats in use, e.g. month/day/year and
>> day/month/year. That would be a good start. I don't think many users
>> will want to enter the ISO format directly, even if for us developers
>> that would not be a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also think that if the text input is not usable, then it would be
>> best for now to keep the current visual appearance.
>>
>>> what role does the Java component play in getting the calendar to
>> work the way we want it to?
>>
>> Mainly, allow switching between JSCalendar and the YUI calendar
>> through a property. If nothing else needs to be changed in the HTML,
>> then great.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:34 PM, XGuy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Erik
>>> The attachment of a few hours ago was actually an image inserted
>>> into the
>>> message. Maybe, you are not able to view that for some reason.
>>>
>>> Well, I worked on this date picker and this is what I came up with.
>>> I have
>>> an input date field that allows "manual date entry", which means
>>> that I can
>>> enter a date in ISO Format in the text input field (and then select
>>> the
>>> whole thing, delete it and have a new date in it, if I don't like it
>>> and
>>> want to change it. But it won't let me use the backspace or the
>>> delete keys
>>> respectively..So maybe my so-called manual date entry is not such a
>>> big
>>> deal.
>>>
>>> I have attached the latest screenshot image, as well as the older  
>>> one.
>>> Should I attach the xhtml file as well, showing how the example
>>> works? In
>>> the older screenshot, the calendar icon appears sits inside a non-
>>> editable
>>> readonly text field ( that has a read-only string as "Wednesday Jan
>>> 30,
>>> 2008")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Erik Bruchez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think the attachment is missing ;-)
>>>>
>>>> -Erik
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:03 AM, XGuy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have attached a snapshot of the date picker (the calendar widget
>>>>> sitting
>>>>> inside a text control that is read-only and as you rightly said,  
>>>>> it
>>>>> does not
>>>>> allow manual date entry)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Eric's instructions on what to do with the Javascript and  
>>>>> all
>>>>> that.
>>>>> What do you think about the result I have here (which is not  
>>>>> much, I
>>>>> know).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alessandro Vernet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2008 11:27 AM, XGuy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> How can I have an input control displayed besides the calendar
>>>>>>> icon
>>>>>>> (causing
>>>>>>> a date value from the calendar icon to be written to be written
>>>>>>> into this
>>>>>>> field). Right now, the default behavior is to have a value  
>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>> besides
>>>>>>> the calendar icon after a certain selection is made inside the
>>>>>>> calendar
>>>>>>> popup. Hopefully i am right about understanding the basic  
>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>> behaviour
>>>>>>> of the calendar picker date-control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am afraid that the current date picker just doesn't support
>>>>>> manual
>>>>>> date entry. You could display the text that is hidden with CSS,  
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> then the text field will expect to have the date to be entered in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ISO format (e.g. same as what you have in the instance). And most
>>>>>> likely the ISO format won't be what your users are familiar with.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> want to change this, to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Allow dates to be manually entered (while still keeping the  
>>>>>> date
>>>>>> picker, for those who want to use it).
>>>>>> 2. Switch to the YUI implementation of the date picker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't want to implement or sponsor this right now, you can
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> this in XForms by having another control bound to another node  
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> contains the formatted version of the date. You will have to
>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>> those two controls in sync: setting the value in ISO when the
>>>>>> formatted value is changed, and vice versa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the Enterprise
>>>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p15205289/date_sample.jpg
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at
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>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p15214167/date_manual_entry.JPG
>>> date_manual_entry.JPG :-)
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p15214167/date_sample.JPG date_sample.JPG
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Re: input field to the right of calendar icon not visible

ilango_g
You are welcome. Yes, I do plan on fixing these issues with the text field. I hope we do not have to disable it. I am going to give a try on fixing these issues. After that we could try your opinion.

Erik Bruchez wrote
Thanks for the update. So do you plan to work on fixing these issues  
with the text field?

What I was saying was that if the text field doesn't work, then we  
could disable it in a first phase.

-Erik

On Feb 1, 2008, at 5:38 PM, XGuy wrote:

>
> Hi Erik
> The current visual appearance is intact, which means that I have a  
> calendar
> icon sitting on top of the text field and writing its usual date  
> string in
> the space next to it. But this action also writes an ISO date format  
> value
> into the text field.
> You are right about the fact that users will not want the ISO date  
> format at
> all. So the next step would be to format it to a usable one!!
>
> The text field that I have now allows me to highlight the value with  
> my
> mouse and delete it. But it does not let me delete it with the  
> delete key or
> the backspace key. (in fact kayak.com does all this).
>
>
>
>
> Erik Bruchez wrote:
>>
>> Looks like a good start!
>>
>> Regarding how to make the text entry useful: I think the text entry
>> should support the two main formats in use, e.g. month/day/year and
>> day/month/year. That would be a good start. I don't think many users
>> will want to enter the ISO format directly, even if for us developers
>> that would not be a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also think that if the text input is not usable, then it would be
>> best for now to keep the current visual appearance.
>>
>>> what role does the Java component play in getting the calendar to
>> work the way we want it to?
>>
>> Mainly, allow switching between JSCalendar and the YUI calendar
>> through a property. If nothing else needs to be changed in the HTML,
>> then great.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:34 PM, XGuy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Erik
>>> The attachment of a few hours ago was actually an image inserted
>>> into the
>>> message. Maybe, you are not able to view that for some reason.
>>>
>>> Well, I worked on this date picker and this is what I came up with.
>>> I have
>>> an input date field that allows "manual date entry", which means
>>> that I can
>>> enter a date in ISO Format in the text input field (and then select
>>> the
>>> whole thing, delete it and have a new date in it, if I don't like it
>>> and
>>> want to change it. But it won't let me use the backspace or the
>>> delete keys
>>> respectively..So maybe my so-called manual date entry is not such a
>>> big
>>> deal.
>>>
>>> I have attached the latest screenshot image, as well as the older  
>>> one.
>>> Should I attach the xhtml file as well, showing how the example
>>> works? In
>>> the older screenshot, the calendar icon appears sits inside a non-
>>> editable
>>> readonly text field ( that has a read-only string as "Wednesday Jan
>>> 30,
>>> 2008")
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Erik Bruchez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think the attachment is missing ;-)
>>>>
>>>> -Erik
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:03 AM, XGuy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have attached a snapshot of the date picker (the calendar widget
>>>>> sitting
>>>>> inside a text control that is read-only and as you rightly said,  
>>>>> it
>>>>> does not
>>>>> allow manual date entry)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Eric's instructions on what to do with the Javascript and  
>>>>> all
>>>>> that.
>>>>> What do you think about the result I have here (which is not  
>>>>> much, I
>>>>> know).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Alessandro Vernet wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2008 11:27 AM, XGuy <ilangocal@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> How can I have an input control displayed besides the calendar
>>>>>>> icon
>>>>>>> (causing
>>>>>>> a date value from the calendar icon to be written to be written
>>>>>>> into this
>>>>>>> field). Right now, the default behavior is to have a value  
>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>> besides
>>>>>>> the calendar icon after a certain selection is made inside the
>>>>>>> calendar
>>>>>>> popup. Hopefully i am right about understanding the basic  
>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>> behaviour
>>>>>>> of the calendar picker date-control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am afraid that the current date picker just doesn't support
>>>>>> manual
>>>>>> date entry. You could display the text that is hidden with CSS,  
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> then the text field will expect to have the date to be entered in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ISO format (e.g. same as what you have in the instance). And most
>>>>>> likely the ISO format won't be what your users are familiar with.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> want to change this, to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Allow dates to be manually entered (while still keeping the  
>>>>>> date
>>>>>> picker, for those who want to use it).
>>>>>> 2. Switch to the YUI implementation of the date picker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't want to implement or sponsor this right now, you can
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> this in XForms by having another control bound to another node  
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> contains the formatted version of the date. You will have to
>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>> those two controls in sync: setting the value in ISO when the
>>>>>> formatted value is changed, and vice versa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the Enterprise
>>>>>> http://www.orbeon.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p15205289/date_sample.jpg
>>>>> --
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>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/input-field-to-the-right-of-calendar-icon-not-visible-tp15048938p15205289.html
>>>>> Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at
>>>>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p15214167/date_manual_entry.JPG
>>> date_manual_entry.JPG :-)
>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p15214167/date_sample.JPG date_sample.JPG
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