how to test Form Builder generated form in the sandbox
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I would like to test the form-builder generated Xform separately in the sandbox or as a view.xhtml in Tomcat. 1)What is the preferred approach? 2) What builder-generated CSS file or files would I need to add as part of an inline style element if I were to test in the sandbox? 3)Would the form look any different in IE? (When I open builder in IE the builder tells me that it is not yet optimized to produce forms in IE or something to that effect) thanks ilango |
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At the moment, you can't do that: it is expected that the forms you create with Form Builder will be run by Form Runner. What is your use case exactly? Regarding IE: we have now removed that warning for IE 7. Form Builder runs on IE 7, but not on IE 6 (it's too hard to do in our opinion, given the load of junk that IE 6 is). However the *forms* produced by Form Builder run on IE 6 as well. -Erik On May 26, 2008, at 4:10 PM, ilango_g wrote: > > Hi > I would like to test the form-builder generated Xform separately in > the > sandbox or as a view.xhtml in Tomcat. > 1)What is the preferred approach? > > 2) What builder-generated CSS file or files would I need to add as > part of > an inline style element if I were to test in the sandbox? > > 3)Would the form look any different in IE? (When I open builder in > IE the > builder tells me that it is not yet > optimized to produce forms in IE or something to that effect) > > thanks > ilango > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17472637.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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Hi Erik
My use-case is as follows: I have an existing XForm that I coded before in the pre-Form-Builder days. This form is already integrated into the Intalio BPMS. Now I need to add more elements to this existing form. The way I have always done this is to develop portions of the form in Orbeon, test it in the sandbox and then integrate this into my Intalio BPMS environment. thanks ilango On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, ilango_g <[hidden email]> wrote:
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I see.
Let me explain why right now you need Form Runner, and what it does: 1. Retrieves the form from the persistence API. 2. Goes through an XSLT transform, components.xsl, which adds XForms models and handles form sections, among other things. 3. The result is a larger XHTML+XForms document, which handles persistence, i18n, etc. 4. That then goes through the XForms engine. For integration with Intalio, some of the above should be kept, but not all. For example, the persistence handling should be changed. Note that with Form Builder, you can go to "Edit Source", and add your custom XForms there. You just have to be careful about what kind of changes you make to the form. Also, just by looking at the source code for the form, you may be able to figure out what is need to make it run in Intalio. -Erik On May 26, 2008, at 10:32 PM, XGuy wrote: > Hi Erik > My use-case is as follows: > I have an existing XForm that I coded before in the pre-Form-Builder > days. This form is already integrated into the Intalio BPMS. > Now I need to add more elements to this existing form. The way I > have always done this is to develop portions of the form in Orbeon, > test it in the sandbox and then integrate this into my Intalio BPMS > environment. > > thanks > ilango > > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, ilango_g <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > Hi > I would like to test the form-builder generated Xform separately in > the > sandbox or as a view.xhtml in Tomcat. > 1)What is the preferred approach? > > 2) What builder-generated CSS file or files would I need to add as > part of > an inline style element if I were to test in the sandbox? > > 3)Would the form look any different in IE? (When I open builder in > IE the > builder tells me that it is not yet > optimized to produce forms in IE or something to that effect) > > thanks > ilango > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17472637.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws > > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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Thanks for your explanation.
I find that the element <grid> is something I have not come across before. It has tr and td in it, looks like a table, it probably is not. Perhaps more light weight than a table? As you suggested I may have to go to the source of the form and take what I want. ilango --- On Mon, 5/26/08, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> > Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: how to test Form Builder generated form in the sandbox > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 2:21 PM > I see. > > Let me explain why right now you need Form Runner, and what > it does: > > 1. Retrieves the form from the persistence API. > 2. Goes through an XSLT transform, components.xsl, which > adds XForms > models and handles form sections, among other things. > 3. The result is a larger XHTML+XForms document, which > handles > persistence, i18n, etc. > 4. That then goes through the XForms engine. > > For integration with Intalio, some of the above should be > kept, but > not all. For example, the persistence handling should be > changed. > > Note that with Form Builder, you can go to "Edit > Source", and add your > custom XForms there. You just have to be careful about what > kind of > changes you make to the form. > > Also, just by looking at the source code for the form, you > may be able > to figure out what is need to make it run in Intalio. > > -Erik > > On May 26, 2008, at 10:32 PM, XGuy wrote: > > > Hi Erik > > My use-case is as follows: > > I have an existing XForm that I coded before in the > pre-Form-Builder > > days. This form is already integrated into the Intalio > BPMS. > > Now I need to add more elements to this existing form. > The way I > > have always done this is to develop portions of the > form in Orbeon, > > test it in the sandbox and then integrate this into my > Intalio BPMS > > environment. > > > > thanks > > ilango > > > > > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, ilango_g > <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > Hi > > I would like to test the form-builder generated Xform > separately in > > the > > sandbox or as a view.xhtml in Tomcat. > > 1)What is the preferred approach? > > > > 2) What builder-generated CSS file or files would I > need to add as > > part of > > an inline style element if I were to test in the > sandbox? > > > > 3)Would the form look any different in IE? (When I > open builder in > > IE the > > builder tells me that it is not yet > > optimized to produce forms in IE or something to that > effect) > > > > thanks > > ilango > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17472637.html > > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list > archive at > > Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > -- > > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > > OW2 mailing lists service home page: > http://www.ow2.org/wws > > > > > > > > -- > > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > > OW2 mailing lists service home page: > http://www.ow2.org/wws > > -- > Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right > Way > http://www.orbeon.com/-- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM, ilango <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks for your explanation. > > I find that the element <grid> is something I have not come across before. It has tr and td in it, looks like a table, it probably is not. Perhaps more light weight than a table? > > As you suggested I may have to go to the source of the form and take what I want. Yes, you can find how <fr:grid> is transformed into a table by looking at components.xsl. Most of those transformations are pretty straightforward. Alex -- Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the Enterprise Orbeon's Blog: http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ Personal Blog: http://avernet.blogspot.com/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/avernet -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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The Form-builder seems to be a sophisticated feature-filled tool. Could you tell me more about the persistenc handling capabilities of the Builder. The informaton will help me change the persistence handling stuff, I think And if I understand you correctly, I can retain the components.xsl and actually use it with Intalio? ilango --- On Mon, 5/26/08, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> > Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: how to test Form Builder generated form in the sandbox > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 2:21 PM > I see. > > Let me explain why right now you need Form Runner, and what > it does: > > 1. Retrieves the form from the persistence API. > 2. Goes through an XSLT transform, components.xsl, which > adds XForms > models and handles form sections, among other things. > 3. The result is a larger XHTML+XForms document, which > handles > persistence, i18n, etc. > 4. That then goes through the XForms engine. > > For integration with Intalio, some of the above should be > kept, but > not all. For example, the persistence handling should be > changed. > > Note that with Form Builder, you can go to "Edit > Source", and add your > custom XForms there. You just have to be careful about what > kind of > changes you make to the form. > > Also, just by looking at the source code for the form, you > may be able > to figure out what is need to make it run in Intalio. > > -Erik > > On May 26, 2008, at 10:32 PM, XGuy wrote: > > > Hi Erik > > My use-case is as follows: > > I have an existing XForm that I coded before in the > pre-Form-Builder > > days. This form is already integrated into the Intalio > BPMS. > > Now I need to add more elements to this existing form. > The way I > > have always done this is to develop portions of the > form in Orbeon, > > test it in the sandbox and then integrate this into my > Intalio BPMS > > environment. > > > > thanks > > ilango > > > > > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, ilango_g > <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > Hi > > I would like to test the form-builder generated Xform > separately in > > the > > sandbox or as a view.xhtml in Tomcat. > > 1)What is the preferred approach? > > > > 2) What builder-generated CSS file or files would I > need to add as > > part of > > an inline style element if I were to test in the > sandbox? > > > > 3)Would the form look any different in IE? (When I > open builder in > > IE the > > builder tells me that it is not yet > > optimized to produce forms in IE or something to that > effect) > > > > thanks > > ilango > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17472637.html > > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list > archive at > > Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > -- > > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > > OW2 mailing lists service home page: > http://www.ow2.org/wws > > > > > > > > -- > > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > > OW2 mailing lists service home page: > http://www.ow2.org/wws > > -- > Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right > Way > http://www.orbeon.com/-- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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On further thought I understand that for integration with Intalio, I would need all the CSS files that the builder-generated form uses.
I think there is base-min.css and this is an essential CSS file if I want to retain the styling the form has? I am not sure what the other two CSS files do. But my guess is they are important in some way ilango --- On Mon, 5/26/08, Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> > Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: how to test Form Builder generated form in the sandbox > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 2:21 PM > I see. > > Let me explain why right now you need Form Runner, and what > it does: > > 1. Retrieves the form from the persistence API. > 2. Goes through an XSLT transform, components.xsl, which > adds XForms > models and handles form sections, among other things. > 3. The result is a larger XHTML+XForms document, which > handles > persistence, i18n, etc. > 4. That then goes through the XForms engine. > > For integration with Intalio, some of the above should be > kept, but > not all. For example, the persistence handling should be > changed. > > Note that with Form Builder, you can go to "Edit > Source", and add your > custom XForms there. You just have to be careful about what > kind of > changes you make to the form. > > Also, just by looking at the source code for the form, you > may be able > to figure out what is need to make it run in Intalio. > > -Erik > > On May 26, 2008, at 10:32 PM, XGuy wrote: > > > Hi Erik > > My use-case is as follows: > > I have an existing XForm that I coded before in the > pre-Form-Builder > > days. This form is already integrated into the Intalio > BPMS. > > Now I need to add more elements to this existing form. > The way I > > have always done this is to develop portions of the > form in Orbeon, > > test it in the sandbox and then integrate this into my > Intalio BPMS > > environment. > > > > thanks > > ilango > > > > > > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, ilango_g > <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > Hi > > I would like to test the form-builder generated Xform > separately in > > the > > sandbox or as a view.xhtml in Tomcat. > > 1)What is the preferred approach? > > > > 2) What builder-generated CSS file or files would I > need to add as > > part of > > an inline style element if I were to test in the > sandbox? > > > > 3)Would the form look any different in IE? (When I > open builder in > > IE the > > builder tells me that it is not yet > > optimized to produce forms in IE or something to that > effect) > > > > thanks > > ilango > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17472637.html > > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list > archive at > > Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > -- > > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > > OW2 mailing lists service home page: > http://www.ow2.org/wws > > > > > > > > -- > > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] > > mailing list. > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > > OW2 mailing lists service home page: > http://www.ow2.org/wws > > -- > Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right > Way > http://www.orbeon.com/-- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 6:33 PM, ilango <[hidden email]> wrote:
> The Form-builder seems to be a sophisticated feature-filled tool. Could you tell me more about the persistenc handling capabilities of the Builder. The informaton will help me change the persistence handling stuff, I think > > And if I understand you correctly, I can retain the components.xsl and actually use it with Intalio? Yes, you will need to keep the Form Runner component, which you can find under resources/apps/fr. The XSL, CSS, and all the other files you need are in that directory. Alex -- Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the Enterprise Orbeon's Blog: http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ Personal Blog: http://avernet.blogspot.com/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/avernet -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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Do I need to also unjar orbeon-public-resources.jar for anything? --- On Mon, 5/26/08, Alessandro Vernet <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Alessandro Vernet <[hidden email]> > Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Re: Re: how to test Form Builder generated form in the sandbox > To: [hidden email] > Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 6:42 PM > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 6:33 PM, ilango > <[hidden email]> wrote: > > The Form-builder seems to be a sophisticated > feature-filled tool. Could you tell me more about the > persistenc handling capabilities of the Builder. The > informaton will help me change the persistence handling > stuff, I think > > > > And if I understand you correctly, I can retain the > components.xsl and actually use it with Intalio? > > Yes, you will need to keep the Form Runner component, which > you can > find under resources/apps/fr. The XSL, CSS, and all the > other files > you need are in that directory. > > Alex > -- > Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the > Enterprise > Orbeon's Blog: http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ > Personal Blog: http://avernet.blogspot.com/ > Twitter - http://twitter.com/avernet-- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the > [hidden email] mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 6:46 PM, ilango <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Do I need to also unjar orbeon-public-resources.jar for anything? You will need a recent nightly build of Orbeon Forms, with all the jar files. But you don't need to explicitly uncompress orbeon-public-resources.jar. Alex -- Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the Enterprise Orbeon's Blog: http://www.orbeon.com/blog/ Personal Blog: http://avernet.blogspot.com/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/avernet -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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> The Form-builder seems to be a sophisticated feature-filled tool.
> Could you tell me more about the persistenc handling capabilities of > the Builder. The informaton will help me change the persistence > handling stuff, I think Basically, it's a quite simple REST API. We have some doc in the works. We hope to make it available soon. -Erik -- Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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Hi Erik Is crud.xpl meant to handle SQL database calls from the XForm? thanks ilango
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I looked at /resources/apps/fr after Alex pointed me to it.
After an inspection of the contents, I felt that the below components were essential to integration with Intalio. I have a table structure in Intalio right now, so i think it is essential to ahve the components.xsl in there. What is your opinion? 1) style folder 2) components.xsl 3) page-flow.xml 4)pdf-view.xpl 5)pdf-print.xpl 6)print-pdf.xpl 7) includes ilango
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crud.xpl handles the CRUD operations for a given persistence
implementation. exist/crud.xpl implements this for eXist, and resource/ crud.xpl for the local filesystem. Actually in that case, it only works read-only for the moment. So sorry, no relational support for the moment, but if somebody is tempted to implement a sql/crud.xpl, you are glad to offer guidance ;-) -Erik On May 27, 2008, at 4:16 PM, ilango_g wrote: > > > Hi Erik > Is crud.xpl meant to handle SQL database calls from the XForm? > > thanks > ilango > > > Erik Bruchez wrote: >> >>> The Form-builder seems to be a sophisticated feature-filled tool. >>> Could you tell me more about the persistenc handling capabilities of >>> the Builder. The informaton will help me change the persistence >>> handling stuff, I think >> >> Basically, it's a quite simple REST API. We have some doc in the >> works. We hope to make it available soon. >> >> -Erik >> >> -- >> Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way >> http://www.orbeon.com/ >> >> >> >> -- >> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >> mailing >> list. >> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17491486.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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Just to add, our user conference (http://intaliocon.com will have a workshop "Developing and Integrating a UI technology for Intalio|Workflow Part-2: Runtime" that will address some of these issues.
We have been very impressed with what Orbeon has done. We are hoping that they can clear some time in their busy schedule to participate/co-present during the conference (wink wink nudge nudge). Thanks, Jonathan Intalio
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So the CRUD operations for SQL could be accomplished anyways outside the Form Builder using the existing functionality in Orbeon, right?
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Yes, you could implement a relational persistence layer by
implementing the Form Runner persistence API. Most likely, you could write it entirely with XPL, XSLT, etc. -Erik On May 27, 2008, at 9:48 PM, ilango_g wrote: > > So the CRUD operations for SQL could be accomplished anyways outside > the Form > Builder using the existing functionality in Orbeon, right? > > ilango > > Erik Bruchez wrote: >> >> crud.xpl handles the CRUD operations for a given persistence >> implementation. exist/crud.xpl implements this for eXist, and >> resource/ >> crud.xpl for the local filesystem. Actually in that case, it only >> works read-only for the moment. >> >> So sorry, no relational support for the moment, but if somebody is >> tempted to implement a sql/crud.xpl, you are glad to offer >> guidance ;-) >> >> -Erik >> >> On May 27, 2008, at 4:16 PM, ilango_g wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hi Erik >>> Is crud.xpl meant to handle SQL database calls from the XForm? >>> >>> thanks >>> ilango >>> >>> >>> Erik Bruchez wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Form-builder seems to be a sophisticated feature-filled tool. >>>>> Could you tell me more about the persistenc handling >>>>> capabilities of >>>>> the Builder. The informaton will help me change the persistence >>>>> handling stuff, I think >>>> >>>> Basically, it's a quite simple REST API. We have some doc in the >>>> works. We hope to make it available soon. >>>> >>>> -Erik >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way >>>> http://www.orbeon.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >>>> mailing >>>> list. >>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>>> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17491486.html >>> Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >>> mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> -- >> Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way >> http://www.orbeon.com/ >> >> >> >> -- >> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >> mailing >> list. >> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17498491.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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At this point of time, without having to implement a a relational persistence layer, is it possible in Orbeon to do SQL database operations in a different way?
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Re: Re: Re: how to test Form Builder generated form in the sandbox
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Thanks Jonathan! We have a lot of interest, but the schedule is busy ;-)
-Erik On May 27, 2008, at 7:07 PM, jonlcrow wrote: > > Just to add, our user conference ( http://intaliocon.com > http://intaliocon.com will have a workshop " > http://intaliocon.com/sessions.php#11 Developing and Integrating a UI > technology for Intalio|Workflow Part-2: Runtime " that will address > some of > these issues. > > We have been very impressed with what Orbeon has done. We are hoping > that > they can clear some time in their busy schedule to participate/co- > present > during the conference (wink wink nudge nudge). > > Thanks, > Jonathan > Intalio > > > > Erik Bruchez wrote: >> >> I see. >> >> Let me explain why right now you need Form Runner, and what it does: >> >> 1. Retrieves the form from the persistence API. >> 2. Goes through an XSLT transform, components.xsl, which adds XForms >> models and handles form sections, among other things. >> 3. The result is a larger XHTML+XForms document, which handles >> persistence, i18n, etc. >> 4. That then goes through the XForms engine. >> >> For integration with Intalio, some of the above should be kept, but >> not all. For example, the persistence handling should be changed. >> >> Note that with Form Builder, you can go to "Edit Source", and add >> your >> custom XForms there. You just have to be careful about what kind of >> changes you make to the form. >> >> Also, just by looking at the source code for the form, you may be >> able >> to figure out what is need to make it run in Intalio. >> >> -Erik >> >> On May 26, 2008, at 10:32 PM, XGuy wrote: >> >>> Hi Erik >>> My use-case is as follows: >>> I have an existing XForm that I coded before in the pre-Form-Builder >>> days. This form is already integrated into the Intalio BPMS. >>> Now I need to add more elements to this existing form. The way I >>> have always done this is to develop portions of the form in Orbeon, >>> test it in the sandbox and then integrate this into my Intalio BPMS >>> environment. >>> >>> thanks >>> ilango >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 10:10 AM, ilango_g <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> I would like to test the form-builder generated Xform separately in >>> the >>> sandbox or as a view.xhtml in Tomcat. >>> 1)What is the preferred approach? >>> >>> 2) What builder-generated CSS file or files would I need to add as >>> part of >>> an inline style element if I were to test in the sandbox? >>> >>> 3)Would the form look any different in IE? (When I open builder in >>> IE the >>> builder tells me that it is not yet >>> optimized to produce forms in IE or something to that effect) >>> >>> thanks >>> ilango >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17472637.html >>> Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at >>> Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >>> mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >>> mailing list. >>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >>> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >>> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> -- >> Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way >> http://www.orbeon.com/ >> >> >> >> -- >> You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] >> mailing >> list. >> To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] >> For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help >> OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/how-to-test-Form-Builder-generated-form-in-the-sandbox-tp17472637p17495361.html > Sent from the ObjectWeb OPS - Users mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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