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Marcus-2

Questions on xxforms:dialog

Hi,
i just wondered if it is possible to preselect an option.
I use that dialog for security questions, i.e. when saaving changes or
delete data.
It would be nice to preselect the yes or no.
Is somethink like that possible?

Thanks in advance, Marcus

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Alessandro Vernet

Re: Questions on xxforms:dialog

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Marcus,

On 9/11/07, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
> i just wondered if it is possible to preselect an option.
> I use that dialog for security questions, i.e. when saaving changes or
> delete data.
> It would be nice to preselect the yes or no.
> Is somethink like that possible?

Yes, in the sequence of actions that opens the dialog, in addition to
the xxforms:show you can do an xforms:setfocus to the "default
trigger". This way end-users can just press enter to confirm. I used
this quite a bit with dialog or when creating wizard type of UI, and
this makes keyboard navigation much easier.

Alex
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Marcus-2

Re: Questions on xxforms:dialog

Hi Alex,

thats good to know and it works.
But unfortunitly when i use the TAB to jump between both options "Yes" and
"No" the focus lives the dialog and won#T come back until i click on it with
the mouse. :-(

I guess that xforms:prompt was not implemented yet unless i asked the last
time? That would be the better and easier way i think to handle security
questions to prompt important actions.

Regards, Marcus

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alessandro Vernet" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Questions on xxforms:dialog

> Marcus,
>
> On 9/11/07, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> i just wondered if it is possible to preselect an option.
>> I use that dialog for security questions, i.e. when saaving changes or
>> delete data.
>> It would be nice to preselect the yes or no.
>> Is somethink like that possible?
>
> Yes, in the sequence of actions that opens the dialog, in addition to
> the xxforms:show you can do an xforms:setfocus to the "default
> trigger". This way end-users can just press enter to confirm. I used
> this quite a bit with dialog or when creating wizard type of UI, and
> this makes keyboard navigation much easier.
>
> Alex
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Alessandro Vernet

Re: Questions on xxforms:dialog

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Marcus,

On 9/26/07, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
> thats good to know and it works.
> But unfortunitly when i use the TAB to jump between both options "Yes" and
> "No" the focus lives the dialog and won#T come back until i click on it with
> the mouse. :-(

What can happen is that if you get to the last form element in the
dialog and you press tab, the focus would go to the next form element
on the page. But of course, we don't want that to happen with a modal
dialog. So when the focus goes to an element which is not in the
dialog, there is some JavaScript code that detects that and takes the
focus out of that control. So after this, no control has the focus. Of
course, there are ways in which this could be improved.

> I guess that xforms:prompt was not implemented yet unless i asked the last
> time? That would be the better and easier way i think to handle security
> questions to prompt important actions.

Right, but you can use xxforms:dialog, which lets you do more than
xforms:prompt.

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Marcus-2

Re: Questions on xxforms:dialog

Hi Alex,
ich know that i could use the xxforms:dialog and i do use it. But thats the
problem!!!
I don't need to do more than a simple Prompt and its very anoying that one
cannot switch from yes to no and otherwise just by pressing the TAB as
normal in a prompt!

So, if you see a possibilty to solve that problem, that would be very
helpful!
Regards, Marcus

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alessandro Vernet" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Questions on xxforms:dialog

> Marcus,
>
> On 9/26/07, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> thats good to know and it works.
>> But unfortunitly when i use the TAB to jump between both options "Yes"
>> and
>> "No" the focus lives the dialog and won#T come back until i click on it
>> with
>> the mouse. :-(
>
> What can happen is that if you get to the last form element in the
> dialog and you press tab, the focus would go to the next form element
> on the page. But of course, we don't want that to happen with a modal
> dialog. So when the focus goes to an element which is not in the
> dialog, there is some JavaScript code that detects that and takes the
> focus out of that control. So after this, no control has the focus. Of
> course, there are ways in which this could be improved.
>
>> I guess that xforms:prompt was not implemented yet unless i asked the
>> last
>> time? That would be the better and easier way i think to handle security
>> questions to prompt important actions.
>
> Right, but you can use xxforms:dialog, which lets you do more than
> xforms:prompt.
>
> Alex
> --
> Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the Enterprise
> http://www.orbeon.com/
>
>

Alessandro Vernet

Re: Questions on xxforms:dialog

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Marcus,

On 9/26/07, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ich know that i could use the xxforms:dialog and i do use it. But thats the
> problem!!!
> I don't need to do more than a simple Prompt and its very anoying that one
> cannot switch from yes to no and otherwise just by pressing the TAB as
> normal in a prompt!

I understand. However this is the way things are implemented in YUI,
the front-end library we are using. So this is likely to stay the same
in the near future unless we modify YUI (which I try to avoid) or YUI
gets improved in that respect.

Alex
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Marcus-2

Re: Questions on xxforms:dialog

Hi,
why is xforms:prompt not implemented?
And what about an old javascript promt?
Any idea if it is possible to use that and how?
Regards, Marcus

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From: "Alessandro Vernet" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Questions on xxforms:dialog

> Marcus,
>
> On 9/26/07, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> ich know that i could use the xxforms:dialog and i do use it. But thats
>> the
>> problem!!!
>> I don't need to do more than a simple Prompt and its very anoying that
>> one
>> cannot switch from yes to no and otherwise just by pressing the TAB as
>> normal in a prompt!
>
> I understand. However this is the way things are implemented in YUI,
> the front-end library we are using. So this is likely to stay the same
> in the near future unless we modify YUI (which I try to avoid) or YUI
> gets improved in that respect.
>
> Alex
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> Orbeon Forms - Web 2.0 Forms, open-source, for the Enterprise
> http://www.orbeon.com/
>
>

Erik Bruchez

Re: Questions on xxforms:dialog

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Marcus wrote:

> why is xforms:prompt not implemented?

Limited time and resources.

> And what about an old javascript promt?
> Any idea if it is possible to use that and how?

You may be able to do that with the xxforms:script action.

-Erik

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