Mutiple Model problem
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Hi,
I have two question with xforms:model:
1. could html:body have a child that is xforms:model ?
2. How can I operator(setvalue, insert...) data in two model ?
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Re: Mutiple Model problem
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hechengrong,
> I have two question with xforms:model: > 1. could html:body have a child that is xforms:model ? hmm - i didn't find a source that _prohibits_ to put the model into the html:body, but i found the following quite convincing: "There are several important things that can be gleaned from this sample, as basic as it may seem. The first is the fact that the model in this particular case, is situation not in the body (as is implicitly the case with HTML Forms) but in the head. It doesn’t need to be, but given the model is by itself an unrendered object - metadata in the purest sense of the word, having this in the head of the document makes sense." Source: K. Cagle: Understanding XForms: The Model http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2006/03/understanding_xforms_the_model.html > 2. How can I operator(setvalue, insert...) data in two model ? Tha's demonstrated in the XForms specs: http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/REC-xforms-20071029/#concepts-multiple http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#concepts-multiple HTH florian -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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>> 1. could html:body have a child that is xforms:model ?
Currently, xforms:model is placed under xhtml:head: that's all the
> > hmm - i didn't find a source that _prohibits_ to put the model into > the html:body, but i found the following quite convincing: > > "There are several important things that can be gleaned from this > sample, as basic as it may seem. The first is the fact that the > model in this particular case, is situation not in the body (as is > implicitly the case with HTML Forms) but in the head. It doesn’t > need to be, but given the model is by itself an unrendered object - > metadata in the purest sense of the word, having this in the head of > the document makes sense." XForms engine knows about. But it can make a lot of sense to have local models in the view. The perfect use case is within xxforms:dialog. Form Builder makes use of this pattern, which for now is not native in the XForms engine but obtained by applying an XSLT stylesheet to place back the model under xhtml:head. Having a local model still helps as it logically groups within the dialog the data model and the controls. In general, this idea could be extended for example to support custom components. This kind of ideas have been floated around in the XForms working group as well. -Erik -- Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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Erik,
Effectivly someone could put the same xml in the epilogue to move all the xforms:model elements to the head as a short term solution I agree grouping models where the data is used can be very helpful, in large forms especially Just my 2c Ryan ------------------------ Ryan Puddephatt FIX Developer Fidessa LatentZero 1 Alfred Place London WC1E 7EB Office: +44 (0) 20 7462 4200 Direct: +44 (0) 20 7323 6112 Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458 Fax: +44 (0) 20 7462 4242 Email: [hidden email] Web: http://www.latentzero.com Sent from my blackberry device ----- Original Message ----- From: Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Sent: Tue Jul 15 00:35:52 2008 Subject: [ops-users] Re: Re: Mutiple Model problem >> 1. could html:body have a child that is xforms:model ? > > hmm - i didn't find a source that _prohibits_ to put the model into > the html:body, but i found the following quite convincing: > > "There are several important things that can be gleaned from this > sample, as basic as it may seem. The first is the fact that the > model in this particular case, is situation not in the body (as is > implicitly the case with HTML Forms) but in the head. It doesn’t > need to be, but given the model is by itself an unrendered object - > metadata in the purest sense of the word, having this in the head of > the document makes sense." XForms engine knows about. But it can make a lot of sense to have local models in the view. The perfect use case is within xxforms:dialog. Form Builder makes use of this pattern, which for now is not native in the XForms engine but obtained by applying an XSLT stylesheet to place back the model under xhtml:head. Having a local model still helps as it logically groups within the dialog the data model and the controls. In general, this idea could be extended for example to support custom components. This kind of ideas have been floated around in the XForms working group as well. -Erik -- Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by Verizon Business Internet Managed Scanning Services - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.mci.com -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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orbeon Orbeon Forms now supports AVTs outside the HTML body. It also supports XForms models placed outside the HTML head (e.g. within dialogs). 04:14 PM July 20, 2008 from twhirl
在2008-07-15，"Ryan Puddephatt" <[hidden email]> 写道： >Erik, > Effectivly someone could put the same xml in the epilogue to move all the xforms:model elements to the head as a short term solution > >I agree grouping models where the data is used can be very helpful, in large forms especially > >Just my 2c > >Ryan >------------------------ >Ryan Puddephatt >FIX Developer >Fidessa LatentZero >1 Alfred Place >London WC1E 7EB >Office: +44 (0) 20 7462 4200 >Direct: +44 (0) 20 7323 6112 >Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458 >Fax: +44 (0) 20 7462 4242 >Email: [hidden email] >Web: http://www.latentzero.com >Sent from my blackberry device > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Erik Bruchez 亚胜·铂第公馆约35-101平米MINI小公馆 恭迎品鉴 -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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That's right, there is now more freedom of placement for models, in
particular you can place them within xxforms:dialog. -Erik On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:57 AM, hechengrong wrote: > Thank you for all, I receive this message: > orbeon Orbeon Forms now supports AVTs outside the HTML body. It also > supports XForms models placed outside the HTML head (e.g. within > dialogs). 04:14 PM July 20, 2008 from twhirl > > > > > 在2008-07-15，"Ryan Puddephatt" <[hidden email]> 写道： > >Erik, > > Effectivly someone could put the same xml in the epilogue to > move all the xforms:model elements to the head as a short term > solution > > > >I agree grouping models where the data is used can be very helpful, > in large forms especially > > > >Just my 2c > > > >Ryan > >------------------------ > >Ryan Puddephatt > >FIX Developer > >Fidessa LatentZero > >1 Alfred Place > >London WC1E 7EB > >Office: +44 (0) 20 7462 4200 > >Direct: +44 (0) 20 7323 6112 > >Blackberry: +44 (0) 79 8539 2458 > >Fax: +44 (0) 20 7462 4242 > >Email: [hidden email] > >Web: http://www.latentzero.com > >Sent from my blackberry device > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Erik Bruchez > > > 亚胜·铂第公馆约35-101平米MINI小公馆 恭迎品鉴 > -- > You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] > mailing list. > To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] > For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help > OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws Orbeon Forms - Web Forms for the Enterprise Done the Right Way http://www.orbeon.com/ -- You receive this message as a subscriber of the [hidden email] mailing list. To unsubscribe: mailto:[hidden email] For general help: mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help OW2 mailing lists service home page: http://www.ow2.org/wws |
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