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Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac
Hello,

On the input field of my login page, I have the properties "xxf:autocomplete=off".
When I log on with firefox 23 or IE 10, I save the password, and the second time I try to login, the password input is filled !
And Orbeon doesn't detect the value.

Is there an issue with properties autocomplete=off  and recent browser ?

I try with Orbeon 4.3, firefox 23 and IE 10.

Thank You
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Re: Issue with password autocomplete

Lomobob
Hi, can you copy/paste the line in where you put the properties ? I use this and it's working for me.

Lomobob


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ricetrac <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,

On the input field of my login page, I have the properties
"xxf:autocomplete=off".
When I log on with firefox 23 or IE 10, I save the password, and the second
time I try to login, the password input is filled !
And Orbeon doesn't detect the value.

Is there an issue with properties autocomplete=off  and recent browser ?

I try with Orbeon 4.3, firefox 23 and IE 10.

Thank You

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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac

Hi,

 

Here, the two input field : login and password :

 

<xf:input ref="/form/connexion/login" id="ident" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="30" class="logon" tabindex="1">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un login</xf:alert>

</xf:input>

 

<xf:secret ref="/form/connexion/password" id="password" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="20" class="logon" tabindex="2">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un mot de passe</xf:alert>

      <xf:action ev:event="DOMActivate">

            <xf:setvalue ref="/form/action">Valider</xf:setvalue>

            <xf:send submission="Valider"/>

      </xf:action>

</xf:secret>

 

 

Thank You.

 

Julien.

 

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Hi, can you copy/paste the line in where you put the properties ? I use this and it's working for me.

Lomobob

 

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ricetrac <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

On the input field of my login page, I have the properties
"xxf:autocomplete=off".
When I log on with firefox 23 or IE 10, I save the password, and the second
time I try to login, the password input is filled !
And Orbeon doesn't detect the value.

Is there an issue with properties autocomplete=off  and recent browser ?

I try with Orbeon 4.3, firefox 23 and IE 10.

Thank You

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Re: Issue with password autocomplete

Lomobob
Try

autocomplete="off"

instead of

xxf:autocomplete="off"

Lomobob


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Bittard, Julien <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

Here, the two input field : login and password :

 

<xf:input ref="/form/connexion/login" id="ident" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="30" class="logon" tabindex="1">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un login</xf:alert>

</xf:input>

 

<xf:secret ref="/form/connexion/password" id="password" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="20" class="logon" tabindex="2">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un mot de passe</xf:alert>

      <xf:action ev:event="DOMActivate">

            <xf:setvalue ref="/form/action">Valider</xf:setvalue>

            <xf:send submission="Valider"/>

      </xf:action>

</xf:secret>

 

 

Thank You.

 

Julien.

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2013 11:31
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Hi, can you copy/paste the line in where you put the properties ? I use this and it's working for me.

Lomobob

 

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ricetrac <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

On the input field of my login page, I have the properties
"xxf:autocomplete=off".
When I log on with firefox 23 or IE 10, I save the password, and the second
time I try to login, the password input is filled !
And Orbeon doesn't detect the value.

Is there an issue with properties autocomplete=off  and recent browser ?

I try with Orbeon 4.3, firefox 23 and IE 10.

Thank You

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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac

It’s the same result.

But There is a difference in the HTML source code generated :

With autocomplete=”off”, the html source code is :

<input id="password$$ctype="passwordmaxlength="20size="10tabindex="2value="" name="password">

 

With xxf:autocomplete=”off”, the html source code is :

<input id="password$$ctype="passwordmaxlength="20size="10autocomplete="offtabindex="2value="" name="password">

 

So, I need to use xxf:autocomplete. This is because I am in Orbeon 4.2 instead of Orbeon 3.8.

 

Thank You.

 

Julien

 

 

 

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2013 12:03
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Objet : Re: [orbeon] Issue with password autocomplete

 

Try

autocomplete="off"


instead of

xxf:autocomplete="off"

Lomobob

 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Bittard, Julien <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

Here, the two input field : login and password :

 

<xf:input ref="/form/connexion/login" id="ident" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="30" class="logon" tabindex="1">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un login</xf:alert>

</xf:input>

 

<xf:secret ref="/form/connexion/password" id="password" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="20" class="logon" tabindex="2">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un mot de passe</xf:alert>

      <xf:action ev:event="DOMActivate">

            <xf:setvalue ref="/form/action">Valider</xf:setvalue>

            <xf:send submission="Valider"/>

      </xf:action>

</xf:secret>

 

 

Thank You.

 

Julien.

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2013 11:31
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Objet : Re: [orbeon] Issue with password autocomplete

 

Hi, can you copy/paste the line in where you put the properties ? I use this and it's working for me.

Lomobob

 

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ricetrac <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

On the input field of my login page, I have the properties
"xxf:autocomplete=off".
When I log on with firefox 23 or IE 10, I save the password, and the second
time I try to login, the password input is filled !
And Orbeon doesn't detect the value.

Is there an issue with properties autocomplete=off  and recent browser ?

I try with Orbeon 4.3, firefox 23 and IE 10.

Thank You

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Re: Issue with password autocomplete

Lomobob
Ah my bad, I though it would solve the problem... We use orbeon 4.2 too, but we use this in a login page that is in the WEB-INF\resources\apps\ folder, witch isn't your case apparently.

Sorry for the false hope.

Lomobob



On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bittard, Julien <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s the same result.

But There is a difference in the HTML source code generated :

With autocomplete=”off”, the html source code is :

<input id="password$$ctype="passwordmaxlength="20size="10tabindex="2value="" name="password">

 

With xxf:autocomplete=”off”, the html source code is :

<input id="password$$ctype="passwordmaxlength="20size="10autocomplete="offtabindex="2value="" name="password">

 

So, I need to use xxf:autocomplete. This is because I am in Orbeon 4.2 instead of Orbeon 3.8.

 

Thank You.

 

Julien

 

 

 

 

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Objet : Re: [orbeon] Issue with password autocomplete

 

Try

autocomplete="off"


instead of

xxf:autocomplete="off"

Lomobob

 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Bittard, Julien <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

Here, the two input field : login and password :

 

<xf:input ref="/form/connexion/login" id="ident" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="30" class="logon" tabindex="1">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un login</xf:alert>

</xf:input>

 

<xf:secret ref="/form/connexion/password" id="password" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="20" class="logon" tabindex="2">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un mot de passe</xf:alert>

      <xf:action ev:event="DOMActivate">

            <xf:setvalue ref="/form/action">Valider</xf:setvalue>

            <xf:send submission="Valider"/>

      </xf:action>

</xf:secret>

 

 

Thank You.

 

Julien.

 

De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] De la part de L'omobob
Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2013 11:31
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Objet : Re: [orbeon] Issue with password autocomplete

 

Hi, can you copy/paste the line in where you put the properties ? I use this and it's working for me.

Lomobob

 

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ricetrac <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

On the input field of my login page, I have the properties
"xxf:autocomplete=off".
When I log on with firefox 23 or IE 10, I save the password, and the second
time I try to login, the password input is filled !
And Orbeon doesn't detect the value.

Is there an issue with properties autocomplete=off  and recent browser ?

I try with Orbeon 4.3, firefox 23 and IE 10.

Thank You

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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac

Hello,

 

Sorry for the delay.

My login page is in WEB-INF\resources\apps\ folder too.

Wich browser are you using ?

 

Thank you.

 

Julien

 

 

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Ah my bad, I though it would solve the problem... We use orbeon 4.2 too, but we use this in a login page that is in the WEB-INF\resources\apps\ folder, witch isn't your case apparently.

Sorry for the false hope.

Lomobob

 

 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bittard, Julien <[hidden email]> wrote:

It’s the same result.

But There is a difference in the HTML source code generated :

With autocomplete=”off”, the html source code is :

<input id="password$$c" type="password" maxlength="20" size="10" tabindex="2" value="" name="password">

 

With xxf:autocomplete=”off”, the html source code is :

<input id="password$$c" type="password" maxlength="20" size="10" autocomplete="off" tabindex="2" value="" name="password">

 

So, I need to use xxf:autocomplete. This is because I am in Orbeon 4.2 instead of Orbeon 3.8.

 

Thank You.

 

Julien

 

 

 

 

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Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2013 12:03


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Try

autocomplete="off"


instead of

xxf:autocomplete="off"

Lomobob

 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Bittard, Julien <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

 

Here, the two input field : login and password :

 

<xf:input ref="/form/connexion/login" id="ident" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="30" class="logon" tabindex="1">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un login</xf:alert>

</xf:input>

 

<xf:secret ref="/form/connexion/password" id="password" xxf:autocomplete="off" xxf:size="10" xxf:maxlength="20" class="logon" tabindex="2">

      <xf:alert>Vous devez saisir un mot de passe</xf:alert>

      <xf:action ev:event="DOMActivate">

            <xf:setvalue ref="/form/action">Valider</xf:setvalue>

            <xf:send submission="Valider"/>

      </xf:action>

</xf:secret>

 

 

Thank You.

 

Julien.

 

De : [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] De la part de L'omobob
Envoyé : mercredi 11 septembre 2013 11:31
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Objet : Re: [orbeon] Issue with password autocomplete

 

Hi, can you copy/paste the line in where you put the properties ? I use this and it's working for me.

Lomobob

 

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:53 PM, ricetrac <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

On the input field of my login page, I have the properties
"xxf:autocomplete=off".
When I log on with firefox 23 or IE 10, I save the password, and the second
time I try to login, the password input is filled !
And Orbeon doesn't detect the value.

Is there an issue with properties autocomplete=off  and recent browser ?

I try with Orbeon 4.3, firefox 23 and IE 10.

Thank You

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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac
Hello,

I'm in Orbeon 4.4, and I have always the issue.
Somebody have the same problem ?

Thank You.

Julien
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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

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Am 23.07.2014 um 14:27 schrieb ricetrac:
> Hello,
>
> I'm in Orbeon 4.4, and I have always the issue.
> Somebody have the same problem ?

Disabling autocomplete for password fields is not supported in Firefox
(since version 30, released ~6 weeks ago), Chrome or IE. See
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Securing_your_site/Turning_off_form_autocompletion 
and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956906#c100 for details.

Philipp

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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

Erik Bruchez
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing this.

-Erik
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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac
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Hello,

Thank You for your response, but I have this issue before firefox 30, and it's the same problem with IE.
I use the autocomplete attribute only with input field, because I don't know how to use it on <form> with orbeon.

Julien


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Am 23.07.2014 um 14:27 schrieb ricetrac:
> Hello,
>
> I'm in Orbeon 4.4, and I have always the issue.
> Somebody have the same problem ?

Disabling autocomplete for password fields is not supported in Firefox (since version 30, released ~6 weeks ago), Chrome or IE. See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Securing_your_site/Turning_off_form_autocompletion
and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956906#c100 for details.

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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac
Hello,

I was wrong: if I understood browsers no longer manages the autocomplete attribute.
If I try to use this attibute it's because Orbeon does not detect the Autofill password field.

How to make it work?

Thank You.

Julien

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Envoyé : jeudi 24 juillet 2014 08:50
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Objet : RE: [orbeon] RE: Issue with password autocomplete

Hello,

Thank You for your response, but I have this issue before firefox 30, and it's the same problem with IE.
I use the autocomplete attribute only with input field, because I don't know how to use it on <form> with orbeon.

Julien


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Am 23.07.2014 um 14:27 schrieb ricetrac:
> Hello,
>
> I'm in Orbeon 4.4, and I have always the issue.
> Somebody have the same problem ?

Disabling autocomplete for password fields is not supported in Firefox (since version 30, released ~6 weeks ago), Chrome or IE. See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Security/Securing_your_site/Turning_off_form_autocompletion
and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956906#c100 for details.

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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

Erik Bruchez
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Julien,

That's a good question, and we don't have the answer right now. It seems that browsers don't dispatch an event (or the right event) when filling out fields. This breaks sane expectations, but my ranting about it won't help ;) So we'll have to find a workaround. I have entered an issue with some pointers:

    https://github.com/orbeon/orbeon-forms/issues/1834

-Erik
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RE: Issue with password autocomplete

ricetrac
Hello

Thank You for your response.
The issue is only on input type password.

Julien

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Julien,

That's a good question, and we don't have the answer right now. It seems that browsers don't dispatch an event (or the right event) when filling out fields. This breaks sane expectations, but my ranting about it won't help ;) So we'll have to find a workaround. I have entered an issue with some
pointers:

    https://github.com/orbeon/orbeon-forms/issues/1834

-Erik

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