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Chaum, Erik CIV NUWC NWPT
Erik:

As a new Orbeon user I am exploring Form Builder. A few questions:
1) is there FB user or design documentation?
2) when/will FB include repeated field or sections as an option?
3) the import XSD Advanced feature seems currently be a placeholder. How will
this feature work (import the XSD into the xforms:model, and name the instance
<control-x> elements, and constrain the form control attributes)?

Additionally, I have noted that using the copy and paste features in FB may
produce repeated xform:binding elements causing subsequent processing errors. I
have seen some recent posts on similar errors.

Thanks for your effort and time.

Erik Chaum


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Re: Form Builder

Alessandro Vernet
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Erik,

erik.chaum wrote
1) is there FB user or design documentation?
We are currently writing the Form Builder user guide. You can find what we currently have on the wiki (link below), and you'll find much more then if you come back to it one or two weeks from now.

http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/doc/user-guide/form-builder-user-guide

erik.chaum wrote
2) when/will FB include repeated field or sections as an option?
We'd like to be able to build in the support for repeats in the next 2-3 months. But I can't make any guarantees there :).

erik.chaum wrote
3) the import XSD Advanced feature seems currently be a placeholder. How will
this feature work (import the XSD into the xforms:model, and name the instance
<control-x> elements, and constrain the form control attributes)?
Yes, it looks like the schema functionality is broken right now. I created this bug for tracking:

http://forge.ow2.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=313772&group_id=168&atid=350207

It just imports the schema you specified. So the schema can be used to validate instances and you can use the imported simple types in <xforms:bind type="...">.

erik.chaum wrote
Additionally, I have noted that using the copy and paste features in FB may
produce repeated xform:binding elements causing subsequent processing errors. I
have seen some recent posts on similar errors.
Could you give us steps we can follow to reproduce this?

Alex
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Re: Re: Form Builder

Erik Bruchez
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>> 3) the import XSD Advanced feature seems currently be a  

>> placeholder. How
>> will
>> this feature work (import the XSD into the xforms:model, and name the
>> instance
>> <control-x> elements, and constrain the form control attributes)?
>>
>
> Yes, it looks like the schema functionality is broken right now. I  
> created
> this bug for tracking:
>
> http://forge.ow2.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=313772&group_id=168&atid=350207
>
> It just imports the schema you specified. So the schema can be used to
> validate instances and you can use the imported simple types in  
> <xforms:bind
> type="...">.
This is now fixed in the CVS.

-Erik

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Re: Form Builder

chandra-6
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Hi Erik,

It is really nice that reapeats block is coming in Form Builder in next couple of month.
Couple of question i would like to verify..

1) can we create child question using FB i mean by using relevant we can hide and show question.
2) Any Idea about Tab implementation IN FB?

/Chandra
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Re: Re: Form Builder

Erik Bruchez
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>> Additionally, I have noted that using the copy and paste features  
>> in FB
>> may
>> produce repeated xform:binding elements causing subsequent processing
>> errors. I
>> have seen some recent posts on similar errors.

This bug was fixed yesterday. Please let us know if you have a chance  
to try a new build and if you see it again.

-Erik

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Re: Form Builder

Alessandro Vernet
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Chandra,

chandra shekher gupta wrote
1) can we create child question using FB i mean by using relevant we can hide and show question.
2) Any Idea about Tab implementation IN FB?
1) Yes, in Form Builder, click on the red exclamation mark next to a field, and in the dialog that shows up type a condition under which the field will show (under "Visibility", which corresponds to the "relevant" XForms model item property).

2) What do you mean by "tab implementation"?

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Re: Form Builder

chandra-6

Alessandro Vernet wrote
Chandra,

chandra shekher gupta wrote
1) can we create child question using FB i mean by using relevant we can hide and show question.
2) Any Idea about Tab implementation IN FB?
1) Yes, in Form Builder, click on the red exclamation mark next to a field, and in the dialog that shows up type a condition under which the field will show (under "Visibility", which corresponds to the "relevant" XForms model item property).

2) What do you mean by "tab implementation"?

Tab implemention means can user create a form where he might design such a form where tab control could be used using form builder.?

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Re: Re: Form Builder

Erik Bruchez
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> Tab implemention means can user create a form where he might design  
> such a
> form where tab control could be used using form builder.?

Currently Form Builder doesn't have a "Tab" control. Waiting for  
somebody to contribute it or sponsor it!

-Erik

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Re: Re: Re: Form Builder

Simon Goodchild
2009/6/1 Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]>:
>> Tab implemention means can user create a form where he might design such a
>> form where tab control could be used using form builder.?
>
> Currently Form Builder doesn't have a "Tab" control. Waiting for somebody to
> contribute it or sponsor it!

I'm going to be doing something like that for a project I'm about to
start, so should have something to contribute back in a month or so. I
was originally planing to handle the 'tabbing' with css, based on the
section elements already there, but maybe a dedicated tab control is a
better solution. Is there some documentation on creating new controls,
or can I get some pointers on the best way to do this?

Cheers,

Simon

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> -Erik
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Re: Re: Re: Form Builder

Alessandro Vernet
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Simon,

Simon Goodchild wrote
I'm going to be doing something like that for a project I'm about to
start, so should have something to contribute back in a month or so. I
was originally planing to handle the 'tabbing' with css, based on the
section elements already there, but maybe a dedicated tab control is a
better solution. Is there some documentation on creating new controls,
or can I get some pointers on the best way to do this?
The best way to create new components is to use XBL. You can read more on how to use XBL to create component on:

http://wiki.orbeon.com/forms/doc/developer-guide/xbl-components-guide

And of course, let us know if you have any question!

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Hasan
Alex,

Do we have repeat compoenent in form builder. Currently i am using 3.7.1 dev.

Regards,
Hasan
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I was told by Orbeon support that it would be available "in some form" by mid-year.   I assume as part of a daily build.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Hasan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Alex,

Do we have a repeat ccomponent in form builder.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Form Builder

Erik Bruchez
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That's what of the first things we plan to work on after 3.9 has shipped.

Right now, the best you can do is manually insert repeat structures into the source of the form, following the pattern of the DMV-14 form:


Form Builder will then usually not choke on the source. It's obviously not an ideal solution.

-Erik

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Dr. Kevin Hunt <[hidden email]> wrote:
I was told by Orbeon support that it would be available "in some form" by mid-year.   I assume as part of a daily build.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Hasan <[hidden email]> wrote:
Alex,

Do we have a repeat ccomponent in form builder.

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