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Form Builder Aims.

richhl
I'm trying to build my mind map of what is your intent for the form builder...please give me any advice.

I would like to use the builder in order to speed up development of my forms, and to obtain feedback from clients. It means that I would like this roadmap more or less:

-Open the builder and make a prototype form.
-Publish it and give the url to the clients.
-Obtain feedback, modify it, publish and obtain feedback until accept.
-Take the definitive form and integrate it in my application.

Would you please tell me if this is in line with your view or intent? I have read several threads of the mailing list and i don't have a clear idea...it seems that I have to use the form runner and this doesn't seem to be suitable...maybe you have to produce a kind of export that could be run on sandbox or any other application context....

greetings,

rich


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Re: Form Builder Aims.

Erik Bruchez
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Rich,

I think you scenario is perfect.

Yes, you have to use Form Runner, but I don't think this should be a  
problem: you can still send out a link to your published form. This  
assumes you have Orbeon Forms deployed in a place where your client  
can access it.

-Erik

On May 27, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Richard C. Hidalgo Lorite wrote:

> I'm trying to build my mind map of what is your intent for the form  
> builder...please give me any advice.
>
> I would like to use the builder in order to speed up development of  
> my forms, and to obtain feedback from clients. It means that I would  
> like this roadmap more or less:
>
> -Open the builder and make a prototype form.
> -Publish it and give the url to the clients.
> -Obtain feedback, modify it, publish and obtain feedback until accept.
> -Take the definitive form and integrate it in my application.
>
> Would you please tell me if this is in line with your view or  
> intent? I have read several threads of the mailing list and i don't  
> have a clear idea...it seems that I have to use the form runner and  
> this doesn't seem to be suitable...maybe you have to produce a kind  
> of export that could be run on sandbox or any other application  
> context....
>
> greetings,
>
> rich
>
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Re: Re: Form Builder Aims.

richhl
On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:38:48 +0200
Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Rich,
>
> I think you scenario is perfect.
>
> Yes, you have to use Form Runner, but I don't think this should be a  
> problem: you can still send out a link to your published form. This  
> assumes you have Orbeon Forms deployed in a place where your client  
> can access it.
>
> -Erik
no problem in order to show it to the client, but the problem is the last step:

> > -Take the definitive form and integrate it in my application.

I want to have and standalone form in order to execute it in my application, not needing form runner....how?

thx

rich


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Re: Re: Re: Form Builder Aims.

Carl Fourie
is there a way to export the deisgned xform?

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Richard C. Hidalgo Lorite <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:38:48 +0200
Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Rich,
>
> I think you scenario is perfect.
>
> Yes, you have to use Form Runner, but I don't think this should be a
> problem: you can still send out a link to your published form. This
> assumes you have Orbeon Forms deployed in a place where your client
> can access it.
>
> -Erik

no problem in order to show it to the client, but the problem is the last step:

> > -Take the definitive form and integrate it in my application.

I want to have and standalone form in order to execute it in my application, not needing form runner....how?

thx

rich


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Re: Re: Re: Form Builder Aims.

Erik Bruchez
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> no problem in order to show it to the client, but the problem is the  
> last step:
>
>>> -Take the definitive form and integrate it in my application.
>
> I want to have and standalone form in order to execute it in my  
> application, not needing form runner....how?

Currently, you do need Form Runner. You could imagine exporting the  
form after it has gone through Form Runner's transformations but  
before it reaches the XForms engine. That may work. The form would  
then look exactly as if it had gone through Form Runner though.

-Erik

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Form Builder Aims.

richhl
On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:00:17 +0200
Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > no problem in order to show it to the client, but the problem is the  
> > last step:
> >
> >>> -Take the definitive form and integrate it in my application.
> >
> > I want to have and standalone form in order to execute it in my  
> > application, not needing form runner....how?
>
> Currently, you do need Form Runner. You could imagine exporting the  
> form after it has gone through Form Runner's transformations but  
> before it reaches the XForms engine. That may work. The form would  
> then look exactly as if it had gone through Form Runner though.
>
> -Erik
could you suggest a hack for me to do that?

Maybe for you is a good feature not needing to much work and good for much orbeon users. I think this is in the line the people is calling for in this thread http://mail.ow2.org/wws/arc/ops-users/2008-05/msg00547.html

thx

rich


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Form Builder Aims.

Erik Bruchez
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> could you suggest a hack for me to do that?

Check the "Edit document" page flow entry for the Form Runner app. You  
would have to create a new page flow entry for the export. You pretty  
much want the same functionality as this, except you don't want the  
XForms engine to run on the output. You could create just a page model  
putting together the "Edit document" page model and view, and then  
serialize that out yourself instead of going through the epilogue.

-Erik

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Form Builder Aims.

richhl
On Tue, 27 May 2008 14:43:55 +0200
Erik Bruchez <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > could you suggest a hack for me to do that?
>
> Check the "Edit document" page flow entry for the Form Runner app. You  
> would have to create a new page flow entry for the export. You pretty  
> much want the same functionality as this, except you don't want the  
> XForms engine to run on the output. You could create just a page model  
> putting together the "Edit document" page model and view, and then  
> serialize that out yourself instead of going through the epilogue.
>
> -Erik
thx...going to try and told u!


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