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Erik Bruchez

Re: x:forms:bind and xforms:model

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Richard,

You can style your input controls by using CSS rules like:

.myclass input { ... }

For examples of this, look at style.css here:

http://www.orbeon.com/ops/

-Erik

Richard Braman wrote:

> After some more looking around I noticed that your code created span
> tags around all of my xforms inputs once they are rendered to HTML.
> Span cannot control an input, which is why my style tags are being
> ignored.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 1:28 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>
>
> It is also rendering check boxes as text.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:54 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>
>
> OK I got it to work with xform:bind
> http://24.75.221.234:8080/taxcode/1040ez
> The only problem is that it looks like Xforms bind is doing client side
> recalculations. It my architecture these things are supposed to happen
> on the server. It is also chainging the style of the form from what it
> was with ref, and ingnoring the styles that I have set up.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 1:49 PM
> To: '[hidden email]'
> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>
>
> oxf:/xforms/f1040ez.xml returns
> Cannot load "/xforms/f1040ez.xml" with webapp loader.
>
> I don't think that url will serve
> http://24.75.221.234:8080/taxcode/1040ez
> The file is located in a xforms directory under ops/examples/1040ez/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:24 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>
>
> Try using src="oxf:/xforms/f1040ez.xml" instead. Those URLs are now
> resolved relative to the external request URL, i.e. the HTTP URL.
>
> -Erik
>
> Richard Braman wrote:
>> I have reproduced snippets from my code. This code throws a response
>> cannot be null error in xForms-epilogue.xpl line 81. I don't really
>> understand the syntax, because if it was the way understand it, it
>> would work :)
>>
>> Here is my view:
>>
>> <html>
>> <head>
>> <title>Form 1040 EZ 2005</title>
>> <xforms:model>
>> <xforms:instance id="main-instance" src="/xforms/f1040ez.xml"/>
>> <xforms:bind id="f1-1" nodeset="/form/f1040ez/f1-1"></xforms:bind>
>> </xforms:model>
>> </head>
>> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
>>
>>
>> <xforms:input xhtml:type="text" bind="f1-1"
>> xhtml:style="height:22px;width:209px;margin:0px;font-size:16px"/>
>>
>> </body>
>> </html>
>>
>> **********************************
>> Here is my input instance in file /xforms/f1040ez.xml
>>
>> <xforms:model xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms">
>> <xforms:instance>
>> <form>
>> <f1040ez>
>> <f1-1>first name</f1-1>
>> </f1040ez>
>> </form>
>> </xforms:instance>
>> <xforms:submission method="post"/>
>> </xforms:model>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:28 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>
>>
>> I am trying to get my empty instance
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ryan Puddephatt [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:04 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>
>>
>> Richard,
>> If your using the classic engine then the instance will be
> defined in
>> the page-flow, but if your using the NG engine, which it looks like
>> your trying to! Then the instance is defined within the page.
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Software Engineer
>> TFX Group - IT UK
>> 1 Michaelson Square
>> Livingston
>> West Lothian
>> Scotand
>> EH54 7DP
>>
>> * [hidden email]
>> ( 01506 407 110
>> 7 01506 407 108
>> Any ideas on What is src="input:instance"
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: 08 February 2006 13:46
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>>
>>> What is src="input:instance" ?
>>> I thought my src instance is specified in the page flow.... Is this
>>> instance passed into the instance in the view?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik
>>> Bruchez
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:45 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>>
>>>
>>> That goes under your /xhtml:html/xhtml:head in your page view, yes.
>>>
>>> -Erik
>>>
>>> Richard Braman wrote:
>>>> Is thi syntax supported in3.0? Where would this code go, in the
>>>> view?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:model xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms">
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:instance id="main-instance"src="input:instance"/>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:bind nodeset="/form/this/is/a/calculated/value1"
>>>> calculate="sum(/form/some/repeated/values)"/>
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:bind nodeset="/form/this/is/a/calculated/@value2"
>>>> calculate="if
>>>> (/form/some/value gt 1000)then 100.0 else 200.0"/> ...
>>>>
>>>> </xforms:model>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Richard Braman

Does Xforms bind foce ajax

In reply to this post by Ryan Puddephatt

It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything into
ajax. I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts
a span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE. What if I
don't want to use AJAX? I am trying to keep everything on the server
and simple, as this is version 0.0.

<xhtml:span>
<xsl:copy-of select="xxforms:copy-attributes(.,
('xforms-control', 'xforms-input'), $id)"/>

<xhtml:span>
<xsl:variable name="showcalendar-readonly-class"
as="xs:string?"
select="if ($is-readonly) then 'xforms-readonly'
else ()"/>
<xsl:copy-of select="xxforms:copy-attributes(.,
('xforms-date-display', $showcalendar-readonly-class), ())"/>
<xsl:if test="$is-date-or-time">
<xsl:value-of
select="xxforms:control($id)/@display-value"/>
</xsl:if>
</xhtml:span>

<xhtml:input type="text" name="{$id}" value="{if
($generate-template) then '' else xxforms:control($id)}">
<xsl:if test="not($generate-template) and
xxforms:control($id)/@readonly = 'true'">
<xsl:attribute
name="disabled">disabled</xsl:attribute>
</xsl:if>
<xsl:copy-of select="xxforms:copy-attributes(.,
($type-class), ())"/>
</xhtml:input>

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Puddephatt [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:31 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model

Sorry just seen the instance, that should work!

Ryan Puddephatt
Software Engineer
TFX Group - IT UK
1 Michaelson Square
Livingston
West Lothian
Scotand
EH54 7DP

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ryan Puddephatt [mailto:[hidden email]]
>Sent: 08 February 2006 15:24
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>
>What is the structure of the src file f1040ez.xml? has it got a root
>node <form> or <f1040ex>?
>
>Try the following
>
><html>
><head>
> <title>Form 1040 EZ 2005</title>
> <xforms:model>
> <xforms:instance id="main-instance" src="/xforms/f1040ez.xml"/>
> </xforms:model>
></head>
> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
> <xforms:input xhtml:type="text" ref="/form/f1040/f1-1"
> xhtml:style="height:22px;width:209px;margin:0px;font-
>size:16px"/>
> </body>
></html>
>
>Ryan Puddephatt
>Software Engineer
>TFX Group - IT UK
>1 Michaelson Square
>Livingston
>West Lothian
>Scotand
>EH54 7DP
>
>* [hidden email]
>( 01506 407 110
>7 01506 407 108
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>Sent: 08 February 2006 15:07
>>To: [hidden email]
>>Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>
>>I have reproduced snippets from my code. This code throws a response
>>cannot be null error in xForms-epilogue.xpl line 81. I don't really
>>understand the syntax, because if it was the way understand it, it
>>would work :)
>>
>>Here is my view:
>>
>><html>
>><head>
>> <title>Form 1040 EZ 2005</title>
>><xforms:model>
>><xforms:instance id="main-instance" src="/xforms/f1040ez.xml"/>
>><xforms:bind id="f1-1" nodeset="/form/f1040ez/f1-1"></xforms:bind>
>></xforms:model>
>></head>
>> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
>>
>>
>> <xforms:input xhtml:type="text" bind="f1-1"
>>xhtml:style="height:22px;width:209px;margin:0px;font-size:16px"/>
>>
>> </body>
>></html>
>>
>>**********************************
>>Here is my input instance in file /xforms/f1040ez.xml
>>
>><xforms:model xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms">
>> <xforms:instance>
>> <form>
>> <f1040ez>
>> <f1-1>first name</f1-1>
>> </f1040ez>
>> </form>
>> </xforms:instance>
>> <xforms:submission method="post"/>
>></xforms:model>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:28 AM
>>To: [hidden email]
>>Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>
>>
>>I am trying to get my empty instance
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Ryan Puddephatt [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:04 AM
>>To: [hidden email]
>>Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>
>>
>>Richard,
>> If your using the classic engine then the instance will be

defined in

>>the page-flow, but if your using the NG engine, which it looks like
>>your trying to! Then the instance is defined within the page.
>>
>>Ryan Puddephatt
>>Software Engineer
>>TFX Group - IT UK
>>1 Michaelson Square
>>Livingston
>>West Lothian
>>Scotand
>>EH54 7DP
>>
>>* [hidden email]
>>( 01506 407 110
>>7 01506 407 108
>>Any ideas on What is src="input:instance"
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>>Sent: 08 February 2006 13:46
>>>To: [hidden email]
>>>Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>>
>>>What is src="input:instance" ?
>>>I thought my src instance is specified in the page flow.... Is this
>>>instance passed into the instance in the view?
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik
>>>Bruchez
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:45 AM
>>>To: [hidden email]
>>>Subject: Re: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>>
>>>
>>>That goes under your /xhtml:html/xhtml:head in your page view, yes.
>>>
>>>-Erik
>>>
>>>Richard Braman wrote:
>>>> Is thi syntax supported in3.0? Where would this code go, in the
>>>> view?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:model xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms">
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:instance id="main-instance"src="input:instance"/>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:bind nodeset="/form/this/is/a/calculated/value1"
>>>> calculate="sum(/form/some/repeated/values)"/>
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:bind nodeset="/form/this/is/a/calculated/@value2"
>>>> calculate="if
>>>> (/form/some/value gt 1000)then 100.0 else 200.0"/> ...
>>>>
>>>> </xforms:model>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Erik Bruchez

Re: x:forms:bind and xforms:model

Administrator

In reply to this post by Richard Braman

Richard,

> It is also rendering check boxes as text.

This obviously does not happen by default. Did you make any change in
your theme that could, for example, modify the generated xhtml:input fields?

> The only problem is that it looks like Xforms bind is doing client side
> recalculations. It my architecture these things are supposed to happen
> on the server.

Not sure what you mean here: surely we don't have any code doing
client-side calculations!

-Erik

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Richard Braman

RE: x:forms:bind and xforms:model

In reply to this post by Erik Bruchez

I know how to style controls. That's not the issue. The issu s that my
inline input styles are being recrouted into a span tag which does not
work. This seems to be happinign in the xforms to xhtml ajax code.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:33 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model

Richard,

You can style your input controls by using CSS rules like:

.myclass input { ... }

For examples of this, look at style.css here:

http://www.orbeon.com/ops/

-Erik

Richard Braman wrote:

>> cannot be null error in xForms-epilogue.xpl line 81. I don't really
>> understand the syntax, because if it was the way understand it, it
>> would work :)
>>
>> Here is my view:
>>
>> <html>
>> <head>
>> <title>Form 1040 EZ 2005</title>
>> <xforms:model>
>> <xforms:instance id="main-instance" src="/xforms/f1040ez.xml"/>
>> <xforms:bind id="f1-1" nodeset="/form/f1040ez/f1-1"></xforms:bind>
>> </xforms:model>
>> </head>
>> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
>>
>>
>> <xforms:input xhtml:type="text" bind="f1-1"
>> xhtml:style="height:22px;width:209px;margin:0px;font-size:16px"/>
>>
>> </body>
>> </html>
>>
>> **********************************
>> Here is my input instance in file /xforms/f1040ez.xml
>>
>> <xforms:model xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms">
>> <xforms:instance>
>> <form>
>> <f1040ez>
>> <f1-1>first name</f1-1>
>> </f1040ez>
>> </form>
>> </xforms:instance>
>> <xforms:submission method="post"/>
>> </xforms:model>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:28 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>
>>
>> I am trying to get my empty instance
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ryan Puddephatt [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:04 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>
>>
>> Richard,
>> If your using the classic engine then the instance will be
> defined in
>> the page-flow, but if your using the NG engine, which it looks like
>> your trying to! Then the instance is defined within the page.
>>
>> Ryan Puddephatt
>> Software Engineer
>> TFX Group - IT UK
>> 1 Michaelson Square
>> Livingston
>> West Lothian
>> Scotand
>> EH54 7DP
>>
>> * [hidden email]
>> ( 01506 407 110
>> 7 01506 407 108
>> Any ideas on What is src="input:instance"
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
>>> Sent: 08 February 2006 13:46
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>>
>>> What is src="input:instance" ?
>>> I thought my src instance is specified in the page flow.... Is this
>>> instance passed into the instance in the view?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik
>>> Bruchez
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:45 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model
>>>
>>>
>>> That goes under your /xhtml:html/xhtml:head in your page view, yes.
>>>
>>> -Erik
>>>
>>> Richard Braman wrote:
>>>> Is thi syntax supported in3.0? Where would this code go, in the
>>>> view?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:model xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms">
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:instance id="main-instance"src="input:instance"/>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:bind nodeset="/form/this/is/a/calculated/value1"
>>>> calculate="sum(/form/some/repeated/values)"/>
>>>>
>>>> <xforms:bind nodeset="/form/this/is/a/calculated/@value2"
>>>> calculate="if
>>>> (/form/some/value gt 1000)then 100.0 else 200.0"/> ...
>>>>
>>>> </xforms:model>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Richard Braman

RE: x:forms:bind and xforms:model

In reply to this post by Erik Bruchez

I haven't changed anything.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:36 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model

Richard,

> It is also rendering check boxes as text.

This obviously does not happen by default. Did you make any change in
your theme that could, for example, modify the generated xhtml:input
fields?

> The only problem is that it looks like Xforms bind is doing client
> side recalculations. It my architecture these things are supposed to
> happen on the server.

Not sure what you mean here: surely we don't have any code doing
client-side calculations!

-Erik

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Erik Bruchez

Re: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

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In reply to this post by Richard Braman

Richard Braman wrote:
> It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything into
> ajax.

Not sure what you mean here.

> I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts a
> span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE.

Note that xforms-to-ajax-xhtml.xsl is no longer used: we should take
it out of the code base (just did that in the CVS). The translation to
HTML is now done natively in Java.

This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples
do work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
specific problem you are seeing?

> What if I don't want to use AJAX?

The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
fairly limited XForms support with Classic.

-Erik

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Richard Braman

RE: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

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I don't know, I tried removing the ajax code, but am getting nowhere.
Maybe its not ajax, but if its not, I don't know where else to search.
I just don't want the span tag holding
tyle="height:22px;width:209px;margin:0px;font-size:16px. This should be
in the input tag.

This:
<div style="position:absolute; left:110px; top:61px; width:209px;
height:22px;">
<xforms:input pdf:x-position="202"
pdf:y-position="1048" xhtml:type="text" bind="f1-1"
xhtml:style="height:22px;width:209px;margin:0px;font-size:16px"/>
</div>

Is becoming this:
<div style="position:absolute; left:110px; top:61px; width:209px;
height:22px;"><span id="xforms-element-78" class="xforms-control
xforms-input" type="text"
style="height:22px;width:209px;margin:0px;font-size:16px"><span
class="xforms-date-display"></span><input type="text"
name="xforms-element-78" value="" class="xforms-input-input
xforms-type-string"><span class="xforms-showcalendar
xforms-type-string"></span></span><label class="xforms-alert
xforms-alert-inactive" for="xforms-element-78"></label></div>

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 2:35 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything into
ajax. I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts
a span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE. What if I
don't want to use AJAX? I am trying to keep everything on the server
and simple, as this is version 0.0.

<xhtml:span>
<xsl:copy-of select="xxforms:copy-attributes(.,
('xforms-control', 'xforms-input'), $id)"/>

<xhtml:span>
<xsl:variable name="showcalendar-readonly-class"
as="xs:string?"
select="if ($is-readonly) then 'xforms-readonly'
else ()"/>
<xsl:copy-of select="xxforms:copy-attributes(.,
('xforms-date-display', $showcalendar-readonly-class), ())"/>
<xsl:if test="$is-date-or-time">
<xsl:value-of
select="xxforms:control($id)/@display-value"/>
</xsl:if>
</xhtml:span>

<xhtml:input type="text" name="{$id}" value="{if
($generate-template) then '' else xxforms:control($id)}">
<xsl:if test="not($generate-template) and
xxforms:control($id)/@readonly = 'true'">
<xsl:attribute
name="disabled">disabled</xsl:attribute>
</xsl:if>
<xsl:copy-of select="xxforms:copy-attributes(.,
($type-class), ())"/>
</xhtml:input>

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Puddephatt [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:31 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [ops-users] x:forms:bind and xforms:model

Sorry just seen the instance, that should work!

Ryan Puddephatt
Software Engineer
TFX Group - IT UK
1 Michaelson Square
Livingston
West Lothian
Scotand
EH54 7DP

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Richard Braman

RE: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

In reply to this post by Erik Bruchez

Span tags are meant to format text, not inputs.
please review the following code in IE and tell me what works:

<html>
<body>
<form>
<span style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
<input type="text" name="doesnotwork">
</span>
<input type="text" name="styley"
style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
</form>
</body>
</html>

Putting this code in the native java is a buzkill.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:59 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

Richard Braman wrote:
> It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything
into > ajax.

Not sure what you mean here.

> I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts a
> span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE.

Note that xforms-to-ajax-xhtml.xsl is no longer used: we should take it
out of the code base (just did that in the CVS). The translation to HTML
is now done natively in Java.

This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples do
work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
specific problem you are seeing?

> What if I don't want to use AJAX?

The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
fairly limited XForms support with Classic.

-Erik

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RE: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

In reply to this post by Erik Bruchez

When I was using <xforms:group> with
<xfrms:input ref="field"> instead of bind="field" it did not put the
span around my input.

Richard Braman
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-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:59 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

Richard Braman wrote:
> It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything
into > ajax.

Not sure what you mean here.

> I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts a
> span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE.

Note that xforms-to-ajax-xhtml.xsl is no longer used: we should take it
out of the code base (just did that in the CVS). The translation to HTML
is now done natively in Java.

This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples do
work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
specific problem you are seeing?

> What if I don't want to use AJAX?

The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
fairly limited XForms support with Classic.

-Erik

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Erik Bruchez

Re: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

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In reply to this post by Richard Braman

According to the HTML DTD:

<!ELEMENT (SUB|SUP) - - (%inline;)* -- subscript, superscript -->

<!ENTITY % inline "#PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; |
%formctrl;">

<!ENTITY % formctrl "INPUT | SELECT | TEXTAREA | LABEL | BUTTON">

So it is perfectly legal to have an <input> inside a <span>. Of course
styling the <span> is not equivalent to styling the <input>.

Now back to your problem. Two things:

1. If most of your controls share styling attributes, you can use
"class" as discussed earlier.

2. If you are looking to do absolute positioning, then positioning the
<span> should work as well as positioning the <input>.

3. If really you want to move back the style to the <input>, you can do
this with XSLT in theme.xsl.

-Erik

Richard Braman wrote:

> Span tags are meant to format text, not inputs.
> please review the following code in IE and tell me what works:
>
> <html>
> <body>
> <form>
> <span style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
> <input type="text" name="doesnotwork">
> </span>
> <input type="text" name="styley"
> style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
> </form>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> Putting this code in the native java is a buzkill.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:59 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax
>
>
> Richard Braman wrote:
> > It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything
> into > ajax.
>
> Not sure what you mean here.
>
> > I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts a
>> span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE.
>
> Note that xforms-to-ajax-xhtml.xsl is no longer used: we should take it
> out of the code base (just did that in the CVS). The translation to HTML
> is now done natively in Java.
>
> This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples do
> work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
> specific problem you are seeing?
>
> > What if I don't want to use AJAX?
>
> The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
> any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
> fairly limited XForms support with Classic.
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
>
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Richard Braman

RE: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

What if the height,width,and font-size of each input tag are different.
I don't understand why the attributes of the <input> are being moved to
the <span> by OPS. I don't understand the assumption that it is OK to
move someones attributes from one tag to another. I also really don't
understand what is accomplished by moving them. How can I fix this in
theme.xsl? I rellay don't want to move them back because I never wanted
them to move to begin with.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:57 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

According to the HTML DTD:

<!ELEMENT (SUB|SUP) - - (%inline;)* -- subscript, superscript -->

<!ENTITY % inline "#PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; |
%formctrl;">

<!ENTITY % formctrl "INPUT | SELECT | TEXTAREA | LABEL | BUTTON">

So it is perfectly legal to have an <input> inside a <span>. Of course
styling the <span> is not equivalent to styling the <input>.

Now back to your problem. Two things:

1. If most of your controls share styling attributes, you can use
"class" as discussed earlier.

2. If you are looking to do absolute positioning, then positioning the
<span> should work as well as positioning the <input>.

3. If really you want to move back the style to the <input>, you can do
this with XSLT in theme.xsl.

-Erik

Richard Braman wrote:

> HTML is now done natively in Java.
>
> This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples
> do work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
> specific problem you are seeing?
>
> > What if I don't want to use AJAX?
>
> The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
> any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
> fairly limited XForms support with Classic.
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
>
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Alessandro Vernet

Re: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

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In reply to this post by Richard Braman

Hi Richard,

Input form elements should always be in a span in the generated HTML.
If you don't get this with some of your XForms code, please send us an
example that shows this behavior and that we can run in the XForms
sandbox.

Alex

On 2/9/06, Richard Braman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When I was using <xforms:group> with
> <xfrms:input ref="field"> instead of bind="field" it did not put the
> span around my input.
>
> Richard Braman
> mailto:[hidden email]
> 561.748.4002 (voice)
>
> http://www.taxcodesoftware.org
> Free Open Source Tax Software
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:59 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax
>
>
> Richard Braman wrote:
> > It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything
> into > ajax.
>
> Not sure what you mean here.
>
> > I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts a
> > span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE.
>
> Note that xforms-to-ajax-xhtml.xsl is no longer used: we should take it
> out of the code base (just did that in the CVS). The translation to HTML
> is now done natively in Java.
>
> This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples do
> work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
> specific problem you are seeing?
>
> > What if I don't want to use AJAX?
>
> The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
> any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
> fairly limited XForms support with Classic.
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Richard Braman

RE: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

That last post by Alex was a little off topic. I have spent the last
few posts asking about the behaviour is OPS that takes attribute in an
input tag and puts it into a style tag. I think that an xforms tag
should be rendered as an html input tag in any tranformation. If you
want to put a <span> around it that's fine, but don't move the xforms
style attribute into it. That doesn't make any real sense. The
span tags DO NOT style input boxes, so why move the style tag that is
found in an XForms input tag into a span tag?

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Alessandro Vernet
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:03 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

Hi Richard,

Input form elements should always be in a span in the generated HTML. If
you don't get this with some of your XForms code, please send us an
example that shows this behavior and that we can run in the XForms
sandbox.

Alex

On 2/9/06, Richard Braman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> HTML is now done natively in Java.
>
> This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples
> do work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
> specific problem you are seeing?
>
> > What if I don't want to use AJAX?
>
> The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
> any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
> fairly limited XForms support with Classic.
>
> -Erik
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

Administrator

In reply to this post by Richard Braman

Hi Richard,

Since there is not a one to one mapping between XForms controls and
HTML elements, XForms control are often rendered by putting together a
number of HTML elements. This is the case for <xforms:input>, which
appearance can change as runtime from an input field to a date picker,
and vice versa. For instance, an <xforms:input> input is rendered as a
span that contains an input form element, a span that contains the
date selected with the date picker, and a span that contains an image
you can click on to show the date picker. If in the XForms code we
find a class or style attribute, on which one of those HTML elements
should this attribute be copied? The answer is always going to be
arbitrary because we don't know what you are trying to style. Should
it be on the input form element, the image? We chose to consistently
copy the style and class attributes on the container, in this case the
span element.

What about using a class on the input? E.g. <xforms:input
class="large-input">. Then in CSS you do:

.large-input input { my CSS that applies to the HTML input form element }

Alex

On 2/9/06, Richard Braman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What if the height,width,and font-size of each input tag are different.
> I don't understand why the attributes of the <input> are being moved to
> the <span> by OPS. I don't understand the assumption that it is OK to
> move someones attributes from one tag to another. I also really don't
> understand what is accomplished by moving them. How can I fix this in
> theme.xsl? I rellay don't want to move them back because I never wanted
> them to move to begin with.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik Bruchez
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax
>
>
> According to the HTML DTD:
>
> <!ELEMENT (SUB|SUP) - - (%inline;)* -- subscript, superscript -->
>
> <!ENTITY % inline "#PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; |
> %formctrl;">
>
> <!ENTITY % formctrl "INPUT | SELECT | TEXTAREA | LABEL | BUTTON">
>
> So it is perfectly legal to have an <input> inside a <span>. Of course
> styling the <span> is not equivalent to styling the <input>.
>
> Now back to your problem. Two things:
>
> 1. If most of your controls share styling attributes, you can use
> "class" as discussed earlier.
>
> 2. If you are looking to do absolute positioning, then positioning the
> <span> should work as well as positioning the <input>.
>
> 3. If really you want to move back the style to the <input>, you can do
> this with XSLT in theme.xsl.
>
> -Erik
>
> Richard Braman wrote:
> > Span tags are meant to format text, not inputs.
> > please review the following code in IE and tell me what works:
> >
> > <html>
> > <body>
> > <form>
> > <span style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
> > <input type="text" name="doesnotwork">
> > </span>
> > <input type="text" name="styley"
> > style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
> > </form>
> > </body>
> > </html>
> >
> > Putting this code in the native java is a buzkill.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik
> > Bruchez
> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:59 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax
> >
> >
> > Richard Braman wrote:
> > > It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything
> > into > ajax.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean here.
> >
> > > I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts a
> >> span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE.
> >
> > Note that xforms-to-ajax-xhtml.xsl is no longer used: we should take
> > it out of the code base (just did that in the CVS). The translation to
>
> > HTML is now done natively in Java.
> >
> > This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples
> > do work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is the
> > specific problem you are seeing?
> >
> > > What if I don't want to use AJAX?
> >
> > The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't get
> > any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you get
> > fairly limited XForms support with Classic.
> >
> > -Erik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Richard Braman

RE: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

In your solution I would need a different class for each input. Each
input has a different height, width, font size.
I also speficied the input as type="text", which is not a date picker,
but rather a text box. It is just as arbitrary to move
my style to a span tag. If this were being done in XML, no problem to
fix, but now its stuffed in with the native code.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Alessandro Vernet
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

Hi Richard,

Since there is not a one to one mapping between XForms controls and HTML
elements, XForms control are often rendered by putting together a number
of HTML elements. This is the case for <xforms:input>, which appearance
can change as runtime from an input field to a date picker, and vice
versa. For instance, an <xforms:input> input is rendered as a span that
contains an input form element, a span that contains the date selected
with the date picker, and a span that contains an image you can click on
to show the date picker. If in the XForms code we find a class or style
attribute, on which one of those HTML elements should this attribute be
copied? The answer is always going to be arbitrary because we don't know
what you are trying to style. Should it be on the input form element,
the image? We chose to consistently copy the style and class attributes
on the container, in this case the span element.

What about using a class on the input? E.g. <xforms:input
class="large-input">. Then in CSS you do:

.large-input input { my CSS that applies to the HTML input form element
}

Alex

On 2/9/06, Richard Braman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What if the height,width,and font-size of each input tag are
> different. I don't understand why the attributes of the <input> are
> being moved to the <span> by OPS. I don't understand the assumption
> that it is OK to move someones attributes from one tag to another. I
> also really don't understand what is accomplished by moving them. How
> can I fix this in theme.xsl? I rellay don't want to move them back
> because I never wanted them to move to begin with.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik
> Bruchez
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:57 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax
>
>
> According to the HTML DTD:
>
> <!ELEMENT (SUB|SUP) - - (%inline;)* -- subscript, superscript -->
>
> <!ENTITY % inline "#PCDATA | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %special; |
> %formctrl;">
>
> <!ENTITY % formctrl "INPUT | SELECT | TEXTAREA | LABEL | BUTTON">
>
> So it is perfectly legal to have an <input> inside a <span>. Of course

> styling the <span> is not equivalent to styling the <input>.
>
> Now back to your problem. Two things:
>
> 1. If most of your controls share styling attributes, you can use
> "class" as discussed earlier.
>
> 2. If you are looking to do absolute positioning, then positioning the

> <span> should work as well as positioning the <input>.
>
> 3. If really you want to move back the style to the <input>, you can
> do this with XSLT in theme.xsl.
>
> -Erik
>
> Richard Braman wrote:
> > Span tags are meant to format text, not inputs.
> > please review the following code in IE and tell me what works:
> >
> > <html>
> > <body>
> > <form>
> > <span style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
> > <input type="text" name="doesnotwork">
> > </span>
> > <input type="text" name="styley"
> > style="font-size:11px;font-weight:bold">
> > </form>
> > </body>
> > </html>
> >
> > Putting this code in the native java is a buzkill.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erik Bruchez [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Erik
> > Bruchez
> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 3:59 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax
> >
> >
> > Richard Braman wrote:
> > > It seems when I switched to using x forms:bid, it sent tverything

> > into > ajax.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean here.
> >
> > > I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts

> > a
> >> span tag around the xforms input, which doesn't work on IE.
> >
> > Note that xforms-to-ajax-xhtml.xsl is no longer used: we should take

> > it out of the code base (just did that in the CVS). The translation
> > to
>
> > HTML is now done natively in Java.
> >
> > This said, we do put <span> around <input>. But all the OPS examples

> > do work with IE, and they too have <span> around <input>. What is
> > the specific problem you are seeing?
> >
> > > What if I don't want to use AJAX?
> >
> > The only way for now is to use XForms Classic, but then you don't
> > get any of the XForms improvements in OPS 3.0. In other words, you
> > get fairly limited XForms support with Classic.
> >
> > -Erik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Richard Braman

Checkbox problem

Aside form my styling problem the other thing I don't get is how:

<div style="position:absolute; left:615px; top:218px;
width:13px; height:14px;">
<xforms:input pdf:x-position="707"
pdf:y-position="891" xhtml:type="checkbox" bind="c1-1"
xhtml:style="height:14px;width:13px;margin:0px;font-size:10px"/>
</div>

Becomes:
<div style="position:absolute; left:615px; top:218px; width:13px;
height:14px;">
<span id="xforms-element-93" class="xforms-control xforms-input"
type="checkbox"
style="height:14px;width:13px;margin:0px;font-size:10px"><span
class="xforms-date-display"></span>
<input type="text" name="xforms-element-93" value=""
class="xforms-input-input xforms-type-string">
<span class="xforms-showcalendar xforms-type-string"></span></span>
<label class="xforms-alert xforms-alert-inactive"
for="xforms-element-93"></label></div>

Also , why is there this code, which I don't want or need. I am not
tring to show a calendar.
<span class="xforms-showcalendar xforms-type-string"></span>
<span class="xforms-date-display"></span>

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Braman [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:17 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

In your solution I would need a different class for each input. Each
input has a different height, width, font size.
I also speficied the input as type="text", which is not a date picker,
but rather a text box. It is just as arbitrary to move my style to a
span tag. If this were being done in XML, no problem to fix, but now
its stuffed in with the native code.

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Alessandro Vernet
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:20 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [ops-users] Does Xforms bind foce ajax

Hi Richard,

Since there is not a one to one mapping between XForms controls and HTML
elements, XForms control are often rendered by putting together a number
of HTML elements. This is the case for <xforms:input>, which appearance
can change as runtime from an input field to a date picker, and vice
versa. For instance, an <xforms:input> input is rendered as a span that
contains an input form element, a span that contains the date selected
with the date picker, and a span that contains an image you can click on
to show the date picker. If in the XForms code we find a class or style
attribute, on which one of those HTML elements should this attribute be
copied? The answer is always going to be arbitrary because we don't know
what you are trying to style. Should it be on the input form element,
the image? We chose to consistently copy the style and class attributes
on the container, in this case the span element.

What about using a class on the input? E.g. <xforms:input
class="large-input">. Then in CSS you do:

.large-input input { my CSS that applies to the HTML input form element
}

Alex

On 2/9/06, Richard Braman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > into > ajax.
> >
> > Not sure what you mean here.
> >
> > > I see at least one issue with ajax. The code below seems to puts

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Erik Bruchez

Re: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

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In reply to this post by Richard Braman

Technically, nothing is "moved": it just happens that the element is
called xhtml:input in XHTML, and xforms:input in XForms, and that they
have a similar function. However, they are different elements.

An xforms:input, in particular, can be rendered in ways different than
an HTML input element: it can end up being a date picker, or be one of
those "edit in place" widgets.

This is even clearer if you look at xforms:select1, which does not
have the same name in HTML, or xforms:range, which does not even have
an equivalent in HTML.

In order to be consistent, we have decided that whenever possible, the
HTML "translation" of XForms controls would be encapsulated within a
<span> with the id of the respective XForms control, and that the
extra HTML attributes present on the XForms control would be copied to
that <span> element as well.

As you have seen, this is not without problems when it comes to
styling, but we don't think it is necessarily a bad solution. Styling
in XForms, to be done perfectly right, would in fact require being
able to address the XForms elements directly and perform a translation
of CSS styles and rules to apply to the translated HTML elements that
make the most sense.

As to theme.xsl, something like this should do:

<xsl:template match="xhtml:span[contains(@class, 'xforms-input')
and xhtml:input]">
<xsl:copy>
<xsl:copy-of select="@* except @style"/>
<xsl:apply-templates/>
</xsl:copy>
</xsl:template>

<xsl:template
match="xhtml:input[parent::xhtml:span[contains(@class, 'xforms-input')]]">
<xsl:copy>
<xsl:copy-of select="(@*, ../@style)"/>
<xsl:apply-templates/>
</xsl:copy>
</xsl:template>

-Erik

Richard Braman wrote:
> What if the height,width,and font-size of each input tag are different.
> I don't understand why the attributes of the <input> are being moved to
> the <span> by OPS. I don't understand the assumption that it is OK to
> move someones attributes from one tag to another. I also really don't
> understand what is accomplished by moving them. How can I fix this in
> theme.xsl? I rellay don't want to move them back because I never wanted
> them to move to begin with.

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Adrian Baker-2

Re: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

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Hi Richard - I think Alex explained why the style attribute is placed in
the wrapping span: because an xforms:input can result in *many* HTML
elements being generated, not just a single xhtml:input.

If an xforms:input results in 3 xhtml elements being generated (for
example), which of these should the style attribute being assigned to?
It's easiest just consistently apply them to the containing span, then
if required this can be used as a reference to apply styles to the child
elements, such as the xhtml:input.

Adrian

Richard Braman wrote:

> That last post by Alex was a little off topic. I have spent the last
> few posts asking about the behaviour is OPS that takes attribute in an
> input tag and puts it into a style tag. I think that an xforms tag
> should be rendered as an html input tag in any tranformation. If you
> want to put a <span> around it that's fine, but don't move the xforms
> style attribute into it. That doesn't make any real sense. The
> span tags DO NOT style input boxes, so why move the style tag that is
> found in an XForms input tag into a span tag?
>
>

Adrian Baker-2

Re: Does Xforms bind foce ajax

In reply to this post by Richard Braman

Having a different class for each input isn't necessarily a bad
solution: it keeps your XForms markup simpler and uncluttered with
styling details, and makes it easier to share a consistent appearance
across your forms.

Richard Braman wrote:
> In your solution I would need a different class for each input. Each
> input has a different height, width, font size.
> I also speficied the input as type="text", which is not a date picker,
> but rather a text box. It is just as arbitrary to move
> my style to a span tag. If this were being done in XML, no problem to
> fix, but now its stuffed in with the native code.

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Erik Bruchez

Re: Checkbox problem

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In reply to this post by Richard Braman

You have to understand that there is a translation from XForms to XHTML
which is taking place here. Each XForms control generates "a bunch" of
XHTML elements that are useful to render the control and that also allow
client-side code to discover the controls. The generated HTML may or may
not match your expectations, but in general, there is a good rationale.
For example, the type of an input field can change at runtime, from
xs:string to xs:date for example, and from an input field become a date
picker. The server-side code currently places placeholders in place for
that this scenario. This could certainly be optimized, but for now it
works and in general the extra elements are of no consequence.

-Erik

Richard Braman wrote:

> Aside form my styling problem the other thing I don't get is how:
>
> <div style="position:absolute; left:615px; top:218px;
> width:13px; height:14px;">
> <xforms:input pdf:x-position="707"
> pdf:y-position="891" xhtml:type="checkbox" bind="c1-1"
> xhtml:style="height:14px;width:13px;margin:0px;font-size:10px"/>
> </div>
>
> Becomes:
> <div style="position:absolute; left:615px; top:218px; width:13px;
> height:14px;">
> <span id="xforms-element-93" class="xforms-control xforms-input"
> type="checkbox"
> style="height:14px;width:13px;margin:0px;font-size:10px"><span
> class="xforms-date-display"></span>
> <input type="text" name="xforms-element-93" value=""
> class="xforms-input-input xforms-type-string">
> <span class="xforms-showcalendar xforms-type-string"></span></span>
> <label class="xforms-alert xforms-alert-inactive"
> for="xforms-element-93"></label></div>
>
> Also , why is there this code, which I don't want or need. I am not
> tring to show a calendar.
> <span class="xforms-showcalendar xforms-type-string"></span>
> <span class="xforms-date-display"></span>

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