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Cant download 2.8 win from object web

Billw
I'm having problems downloading ver 2.8 from object web:

http://forge.objectweb.org/project/download.php?group_id=168&file_id=3451

I'm using firefox and am not having any problems with other downloads. After
the download dialog shows, it just sits there showing the message
'starting...'.
I tried last nite at about 1:00am mountain time, and again today between
10am
and 3pm.

Is there another site from which I can download 2.8?
Is there a problem with the object-web site.
What problems could firefox be giving me ?

 Incidentally,  I would prefer not to use a beta version for this project.

Bill.



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Re: Cant download 2.8 win from object web

Erik Bruchez
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Bill Winspur wrote:
 > I'm having problems downloading ver 2.8 from object web:
 >
 > http://forge.objectweb.org/project/download.php?group_id=168&file_id=3451
 >
 > I'm using firefox and am not having any problems with other
 > downloads.  After the download dialog shows, it just sits there
 > showing the message 'starting...'.  I tried last nite at about
 > 1:00am mountain time, and again today between 10am and 3pm.

It seems to download fine from here, and I am using Firefox as well.

 > Is there another site from which I can download 2.8?

Did you try different download sites from the list? They have 4
mirrors.

 > Is there a problem with the object-web site.

Not at the moment, it seems.

 > What problems could firefox be giving me ?

It shouldn't be giving you any... Can you try with a tool like wget
and see what happens, something like:

wget
http://download.fr2.forge.objectweb.org/ops/orbeon-presentation-server-2.8.0.zip

 > Incidentally, I would prefer not to use a beta version for this
 > project.

Orbeon PresentationServer 2.8 has shown that it is quite stable, of
course. Now it all depends what you want to do: if you plan to use
XForms extensively, then you will miss a lot if you use
2.8. Otherwise, you will miss a number of improvements done in 3.0 as
well, but the difference may not be as drastic. Check out the current
list of changes to get a better idea:

   http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/home-changes-30

On the other hand, it also depends a lot on when you plan to
deploy. If it's in two weeks, 3.0 beta is probably not a good idea. If
it's 3 months, then it is probably reasonable to start working with
3.0 beta.

-Erik



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Re: Cant download 2.8 win from object web

Billw
Erik,
Thanks for your fast response - problem worked around.by using
the French site for download. I've embedded my comments, below.
Bill.

Erik Bruchez wrote:

> Bill Winspur wrote:
> > I'm having problems downloading ver 2.8 from object web:
> >
> >
> http://forge.objectweb.org/project/download.php?group_id=168&file_id=3451
> >
> > I'm using firefox and am not having any problems with other
> > downloads.  After the download dialog shows, it just sits there
> > showing the message 'starting...'.  I tried last nite at about
> > 1:00am mountain time, and again today between 10am and 3pm.
>
> It seems to download fine from here, and I am using Firefox as well.
>
> > Is there another site from which I can download 2.8?
>
> Did you try different download sites from the list? They have 4
> mirrors.
>
> > Is there a problem with the object-web site.
>
> Not at the moment, it seems.
>
> > What problems could firefox be giving me ?
>
> It shouldn't be giving you any... Can you try with a tool like wget
> and see what happens, something like:
>
> wget
> http://download.fr2.forge.objectweb.org/ops/orbeon-presentation-server-2.8.0.zip 
>
OK! That did the trick - clicking on the above URL in the Thunderbird
mail client
initiated a successful download. Thanks.

FWIW, After the download, I retried download using firefox. I noticed
that the
french site is now showing as visited (not surprising given the above
URL). Again,
in firefox, the US site hung up, but the french one was OK. From my
chair it looks like a US
site problem. Thanks again.

>
> > Incidentally, I would prefer not to use a beta version for this
> > project.
>
> Orbeon PresentationServer 2.8 has shown that it is quite stable, of
> course. Now it all depends what you want to do: if you plan to use
> XForms extensively, then you will miss a lot if you use
> 2.8. Otherwise, you will miss a number of improvements done in 3.0 as
> well, but the difference may not be as drastic. Check out the current
> list of changes to get a better idea:
>
>   http://www.orbeon.com/ops/doc/home-changes-30
>
> On the other hand, it also depends a lot on when you plan to
> deploy. If it's in two weeks, 3.0 beta is probably not a good idea. If
> it's 3 months, then it is probably reasonable to start working with
> 3.0 beta.
>
> -Erik
About beta 3.0, I'll be deploying in about 3mo. However, I'm going to be
using piplelines on
the client side to translate specifications (xml docs) into code
(various kinds), rather than
using them to prepare web-pages, so the XFORMS benefits of 3.0 are not
an incentive
for me. I've been getting by on 2.4 for quite a while, and am moving to
2.8 just to get the
bug-fixes, whatever they are, that have come between then and now.

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Re: Cant download 2.8 win from object web

Erik Bruchez
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Bill Winspur wrote:

 > Thanks for your fast response - problem worked around.by using the
 > French site for download. I've embedded my comments, below.

Glad that it worked!

 > About beta 3.0, I'll be deploying in about 3mo. However, I'm going
 > to be using piplelines on the client side to translate
 > specifications (xml docs) into code (various kinds), rather than
 > using them to prepare web-pages, so the XFORMS benefits of 3.0 are
 > not an incentive for me. I've been getting by on 2.4 for quite a
 > while, and am moving to 2.8 just to get the bug-fixes, whatever they
 > are, that have come between then and now.

Sounds good. In that case, you will also be able to move to 3.0 (if
you wish to do that) in the future without significant problem.

-Erik




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