xForms select labels missing in Firefox.

> Gentle people,
>
>  this is about perfect time for another mind twister:
> This is a fragment of XSLT file that creates xforms select element. 
>
> <tr>
>    <th>Applicable to:</th>
>    <td>
>       <xsl:for-each select="document($DocTypeConfigPath)/*/*/Profile">
>          <xsl:if test="@attribute = 'destination'">
>             <xforms:select ref="@destinationList" appearance="minimal">
>                <xforms:hint>Select all the areas this PCS is
> applicable to.</xforms:hint>
>                <xforms:choices>
>                   <xforms:item>
>                      <xforms:label>Proto</xforms:label>
>                      <xforms:value>Proto</xforms:value>
>                   </xforms:item>
>                   <xforms:item>
>                      <xforms:label>Pilot</xforms:label>
>                      <xforms:value>Pilot</xforms:value>
>                   </xforms:item>
>                   <xforms:item>
>                      <xforms:label>Assy</xforms:label>
>                      <xforms:value>Assy</xforms:value>
>                   </xforms:item>
>                   <xsl:for-each select="Allowed">
>                      <xforms:item>
>                         <xforms:label>
>                            <xsl:value-of select="@value"/>
>                         </xforms:label>
>                         <xforms:value>
>                            <xsl:value-of select="@value"/>
>                         </xforms:value>
>                      </xforms:item>
>                   </xsl:for-each>
>                </xforms:choices>
>             </xforms:select>
>          </xsl:if>
>       </xsl:for-each>
>    </td>
> </tr>
>
>
> Picture 1. Firefox:
>
> <image.tiff>The resulting html:
>      <tr>
>       <th>Applicable to:</th>
>       <td>
>        <div title="Select all the areas this PCS is applicable to."
> style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px"><input type="checkbox"
> name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Proto" ref="@destinationList"
> appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false" xxforms:relevant="true"
> xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ="
> checked="checked">Proto</input><input type="checkbox"
> name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Pilot" ref="@destinationList"
> appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false" xxforms:relevant="true"
> xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ="
> checked="checked">Pilot</input><input type="checkbox"
> name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Assy" ref="@destinationList"
> appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false" xxforms:relevant="true"
> xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ="
> checked="checked">Assy</input><input type="checkbox"
> name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Test" ref="@destinationList"
> appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false" xxforms:relevant="true"
> xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ="
> checked="checked">Test</input><input type="checkbox"
> name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Install" ref="@destinationList"
> appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false" xxforms:relevant="true"
> xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ="
> checked="checked">Install</input><input type="checkbox"
> name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Service" ref="@destinationList"
> appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false" xxforms:relevant="true"
> xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ="
> checked="checked">Service</input></div>
>       </td>
>      </tr>
>     </table>
>
> Picture 2. IE:
>
> <image.tiff>result code in IE:
>
>       <tr>
>       <th>Applicable to:</th>
>       <td>
>        <div title="Select all the areas this PCS is applicable to."
> style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px"><input type="checkbox"
> name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Proto" ref="@destinationList"
> appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false" xxforms:relevant="true"
> xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ=" checked>Proto<input
> type="checkbox" name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Pilot"
> ref="@destinationList" appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false"
> xxforms:relevant="true" xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ=" checked>Pilot<input
> type="checkbox" name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Assy"
> ref="@destinationList" appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false"
> xxforms:relevant="true" xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ=" checked>Assy<input
> type="checkbox" name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Test"
> ref="@destinationList" appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false"
> xxforms:relevant="true" xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ=" checked>Test<input
> type="checkbox" name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Install"
> ref="@destinationList" appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false"
> xxforms:relevant="true" xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ=" checked>Install<input
> type="checkbox" name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" value="Service"
> ref="@destinationList" appearance="minimal" xxforms:readonly="false"
> xxforms:relevant="true" xxforms:required="false" xxforms:valid="false"
> xxforms:name="$node^oRozUsPUJwQ=" xxforms:value="Proto Pilot Assy Test
> Install Service" xxforms:node-ids="oRozUsPUJwQ=" checked>Service</div>
>       </td>
>      </tr>
>     </table>
>
> Pay attention to "Applicable to:" row of the table.
> In Firefox labels of the checkboxes are missing.
>
> I did not check these portions of the result html code for identicity,
> but I see that both fragments contain names of destination like Proto,
> Pilot, Assy and so on.
> This is something that I cant explain rationally, and I will sincerely
> appreciate any help on this subject.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Taras Bahnyuk.
>
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> Thanks, I did not realize that.
> Anyways, it's html:
>
> <!DOCTYPE html
>   PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
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> *From:* Ryan Puddephatt [mailto:[hidden email]]
> *Sent:* donderdag 2 februari 2006 16:00
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> *Subject:* RE: [ops-users] xForms select labels missing in Firefox.
>
> Taras,
>
>             I believe Colin is talking about this
>
> <!DOCTYPE html
>
>   PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>
>  
>
> Which should be at the top of the document when looking at view source
> in the browser
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>  
>
> Ryan
>
>  
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> *From:* Taras Bahnyuk [mailto:[hidden email]]
> *Sent:* 02 February 2006 14:55
> *To:* [hidden email]
> *Subject:* RE: [ops-users] xForms select labels missing in Firefox.
>
>  
>
> Colin,
> Thanks for the reply :-)
> In my case the doctype is html:
>
> <html xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"
> xmlns:f="http://orbeon.org/oxf/xml/formatting"
> xmlns:portlet="http://orbeon.org/oxf/xml/portlet"
> xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
> xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms"
> xmlns:xxforms="http://orbeon.org/oxf/xml/xforms"
> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
>
> regards,
>
> Taras
>
>  
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin O'Brien [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: donderdag 2 februari 2006 14:44
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [ops-users] xForms select labels missing in Firefox.
>
> Hi Taras
>
> this seems similar to the situation I described the other day
> http://mail-archive.objectweb.org/ops-users/2006-01/msg00366.html
>
> My assessment was that it was because the page was being produced as
> xhtml and Firefox was enforcing the spec on the input element when it
> is being used for a radio or checkbox.
>
> Is your page in the browser with an xhtml or html doctype?
>
> Thanks & regards
> Colin
>
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> Taras,
>
> Did you customize your epilogue? By default, I see the same DOCTYPE
> sent to both Firefox and IE.
>
> The epilogue (config/epilogue-servlet.xpl) has an optional section
> that allows you to enable XHTML. I assume that you have enabled
> that. And that would also be the place where you would configure the
> DOCTYPE: search for "public-doctype".
>
> The fact is that depending on your DOCTYPE, your browser will render
> pages differently. This is why in general it remains easier to just
> generate plain ugly HTML, unless you really understand all the
> consequences of sending XHTML to your browser.
>
> I recommend you go back to sending HTML to both IE and Firefox, and
> take it from there.
>
> -Erik

> Hi Erik,
>
> sorry, but, with respect, the issue doesn't seem to be what the doctype
> is, the real issue imho is that the (x)html being produced for an input
> element is invalid according to the spec.
> html didn't have this issue as it wasn't concerned with closing tags,
> and browsers are more tolerant of html quirks anyway.
> xhtml makes this an issue because you now need to close a tag that is
> supposed to be empty, so labels as plain text no longer work, and you
> have to use label elements.
> Since I started focusing on building websites over five years ago, we
> have only produced sites using xhtml (I wanted to change the epilogue to
> always send xhtml), so I believe I am comfortable with what the standard
> means.
> Since, for me at least, one of the biggest selling features of ops is
> its adherence to standards, I suspect the same is true for you.
> So yes, it's not great, but we do have a workaround now of using an html
> doctype, but as this issue illustrates, allowing a browser to slip into
> quirks mode can have a number of unanticipated and unacceptable
> consequences and I hope you can open a tracker item on it.
>
> Thanks & regards
> Colin
>
> On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Erik Bruchez wrote:
>
>> Taras,
>>
>> Did you customize your epilogue? By default, I see the same DOCTYPE
>> sent to both Firefox and IE.
>>
>> The epilogue (config/epilogue-servlet.xpl) has an optional section
>> that allows you to enable XHTML. I assume that you have enabled
>> that. And that would also be the place where you would configure the
>> DOCTYPE: search for "public-doctype".
>>
>> The fact is that depending on your DOCTYPE, your browser will render
>> pages differently. This is why in general it remains easier to just
>> generate plain ugly HTML, unless you really understand all the
>> consequences of sending XHTML to your browser.
>>
>> I recommend you go back to sending HTML to both IE and Firefox, and
>> take it from there.
>>
>> -Erik
>
>
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> Makes sense:
>
> http://forge.objectweb.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=304621&group_id=168&atid=350207 
>
>
> Still, in the meanwhile, using HTML is a solution ;-)
>
> -Erik
>
> Colin O'Brien wrote:
>> Hi Erik,
>>
>> sorry, but, with respect, the issue doesn't seem to be what the
>> doctype is, the real issue imho is that the (x)html being produced for
>> an input element is invalid according to the spec.
>> html didn't have this issue as it wasn't concerned with closing tags,
>> and browsers are more tolerant of html quirks anyway.
>> xhtml makes this an issue because you now need to close a tag that is
>> supposed to be empty, so labels as plain text no longer work, and you
>> have to use label elements.
>> Since I started focusing on building websites over five years ago, we
>> have only produced sites using xhtml (I wanted to change the epilogue
>> to always send xhtml), so I believe I am comfortable with what the
>> standard means.
>> Since, for me at least, one of the biggest selling features of ops is
>> its adherence to standards, I suspect the same is true for you.
>> So yes, it's not great, but we do have a workaround now of using an
>> html doctype, but as this issue illustrates, allowing a browser to
>> slip into quirks mode can have a number of unanticipated and
>> unacceptable consequences and I hope you can open a tracker item on it.
>>
>> Thanks & regards
>> Colin
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2006, at 7:18 AM, Erik Bruchez wrote:
>>
>>> Taras,
>>>
>>> Did you customize your epilogue? By default, I see the same DOCTYPE
>>> sent to both Firefox and IE.
>>>
>>> The epilogue (config/epilogue-servlet.xpl) has an optional section
>>> that allows you to enable XHTML. I assume that you have enabled
>>> that. And that would also be the place where you would configure the
>>> DOCTYPE: search for "public-doctype".
>>>
>>> The fact is that depending on your DOCTYPE, your browser will render
>>> pages differently. This is why in general it remains easier to just
>>> generate plain ugly HTML, unless you really understand all the
>>> consequences of sending XHTML to your browser.
>>>
>>> I recommend you go back to sending HTML to both IE and Firefox, and
>>> take it from there.
>>>
>>> -Erik
>>
>>
>>
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