Suggestions for xforms:help rendering

Hello,
I have a couple of suggestions for xforms:help rendering.

Attached is a short example form that works in the sandbox.

1. Hide the help icon (question mark) and popup when the
    actual help text is empty - seems odd I should suggest this?,
    but makes sense when using @ref on xforms:help.
    As demonstrated on the 'First Name' element in the example.

2. Support for xforms:help on a xforms:group (the XForms spec
    seems to allow this, but it is presently ignored),
    the popup icon could appear next to the label.
    Although I'm not sure whether the xhtml:legend element would
    allow this?

I'd look into these myself but I'm not sure where to start,
and don't have a great deal of time at the moment,
so I'd thought I'd post the ideas here instead.

Cheers
- Mark Gibson



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Mark Gibson wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a couple of suggestions for xforms:help rendering.
>
> Attached is a short example form that works in the sandbox.

Oops, forgot the attachment, here it is...


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On 5/12/06, Mark Gibson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> 1. Hide the help icon (question mark) and popup when the
>     actual help text is empty - seems odd I should suggest this?,
>     but makes sense when using @ref on xforms:help.
>     As demonstrated on the 'First Name' element in the example.

If there is <xforms:help ref="..."/> and the ref returns an empty
nodeset, then the help should not be displayed. I agree on this one
and recorded this as request for enhancement:

http://forge.objectweb.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=305321&group_id=168&atid=350207

> 2. Support for xforms:help on a xforms:group (the XForms spec
>     seems to allow this, but it is presently ignored),
>     the popup icon could appear next to the label.
>     Although I'm not sure whether the xhtml:legend element would
>     allow this?

I am not sure about this one. It is similar to the <xforms:label> on
and <xforms:group> that was talked about earlier in this list. It is
not clear what it should do. Different people might want different
things. Since there is in general another way to get to the same
result using XHTML, I would favor that way. For instance, if you want
a help icon somewhere in your UI, not just next to a control, in that
location you can insert:

    <xforms:output value="''">
        <xforms:help>My Help</xforms:help>
    </xforms:output>

Alex
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On 5/19/06, Alessandro Vernet <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Mark,

This is now implemented in the latest builds.

Alex
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