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Colin O'Brien
Hi,

sometimes when I am getting into planning a new feature to add to our
application, and I try one of the examples, and I look at the source,
I'll see something, and I'll think, "that looks useful, I wonder what
it's supposed to do, or what the full syntax is", or something like
that. And then you have to go hunting. Sometimes the contents down the
left of the docs web page will get you there, but there are many times
when the association is not intuitive (or I'm just having a cross-eyed
day!) and then I have to go grep the doc directory.

It would seem it could be very useful to have an (or many) index into
the doc.
The thing I am most thinking of would be a list of processors.
Thanks to grep and bbedit I produced a list of processors used in the
examples, and there are over 90.
Some I'd never heard of.
Some of them will be very useful in the future.
Seeing the list took me straight to something I needed (straight in as
I knew it existed, I still had to grep the docs to find which page it
was in and then use the contents to go to that page - you see how I
think there is room for improvement ;-).

Some of those new-to-me processors were also undocumented, but that's
another story.

Hope this makes sense
thanks & regards
Colin




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Re: Documentation enhancement - index

Alessandro  Vernet
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Hi Colin,

1) If you know what you are looking for, Google provides a pretty good
index. If you are looking for the SQL processor documentation, then
search on Google for: site:www.orbeon.com sql processor. Sometimes it
is faster to just type what you are looking for then looking it up in
the documentation table of contents.

2) But I agree: we don't have a place where we just list all the
available processors. In the documentation, they are grouped by
categories under "Processors Reference". If you want to create a page
with the alphabetical list of processors, a one line description for
each one, and a link to the appropriate section of the documentation,
we would be happy to include this list in the documentation. For the
format to use, look at the XML files under doc/pages in the examples
resources.

Alex

On 1/6/06, Colin O'Brien <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> sometimes when I am getting into planning a new feature to add to our
> application, and I try one of the examples, and I look at the source,
> I'll see something, and I'll think, "that looks useful, I wonder what
> it's supposed to do, or what the full syntax is", or something like
> that. And then you have to go hunting. Sometimes the contents down the
> left of the docs web page will get you there, but there are many times
> when the association is not intuitive (or I'm just having a cross-eyed
> day!) and then I have to go grep the doc directory.
>
> It would seem it could be very useful to have an (or many) index into
> the doc.
> The thing I am most thinking of would be a list of processors.
> Thanks to grep and bbedit I produced a list of processors used in the
> examples, and there are over 90.
> Some I'd never heard of.
> Some of them will be very useful in the future.
> Seeing the list took me straight to something I needed (straight in as
> I knew it existed, I still had to grep the docs to find which page it
> was in and then use the contents to go to that page - you see how I
> think there is room for improvement ;-).
>
> Some of those new-to-me processors were also undocumented, but that's
> another story.
>
> Hope this makes sense
> thanks & regards
> Colin
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Documentation enhancement - index

Colin O'Brien
Hi Alex

yes, Google can be useful once you know what you are using, but an
index can be useful when you just have a vague idea of what you want to
accomplish but not the OPS term for it.

And yes, since I've already started ;-) I can make a first pass at
producing the index of processors. I will have to leave it to you to
finish it though, as I'm not sure what they all do!

Thanks & regards
Colin

On Jan 6, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Alessandro Vernet wrote:

> Hi Colin,
>
> 1) If you know what you are looking for, Google provides a pretty good
> index. If you are looking for the SQL processor documentation, then
> search on Google for: site:www.orbeon.com sql processor. Sometimes it
> is faster to just type what you are looking for then looking it up in
> the documentation table of contents.
>
> 2) But I agree: we don't have a place where we just list all the
> available processors. In the documentation, they are grouped by
> categories under "Processors Reference". If you want to create a page
> with the alphabetical list of processors, a one line description for
> each one, and a link to the appropriate section of the documentation,
> we would be happy to include this list in the documentation. For the
> format to use, look at the XML files under doc/pages in the examples
> resources.
>
> Alex
>
> On 1/6/06, Colin O'Brien <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> sometimes when I am getting into planning a new feature to add to our
>> application, and I try one of the examples, and I look at the source,
>> I'll see something, and I'll think, "that looks useful, I wonder what
>> it's supposed to do, or what the full syntax is", or something like
>> that. And then you have to go hunting. Sometimes the contents down the
>> left of the docs web page will get you there, but there are many times
>> when the association is not intuitive (or I'm just having a cross-eyed
>> day!) and then I have to go grep the doc directory.
>>
>> It would seem it could be very useful to have an (or many) index into
>> the doc.
>> The thing I am most thinking of would be a list of processors.
>> Thanks to grep and bbedit I produced a list of processors used in the
>> examples, and there are over 90.
>> Some I'd never heard of.
>> Some of them will be very useful in the future.
>> Seeing the list took me straight to something I needed (straight in as
>> I knew it existed, I still had to grep the docs to find which page it
>> was in and then use the contents to go to that page - you see how I
>> think there is room for improvement ;-).
>>
>> Some of those new-to-me processors were also undocumented, but that's
>> another story.
>>
>> Hope this makes sense
>> thanks & regards
>> Colin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Documentation enhancement - index

Alessandro  Vernet
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Hi Colin,

That sounds good; then just us know when you have something you can share.

Alex

On 1/6/06, Colin O'Brien <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Alex
>
> yes, Google can be useful once you know what you are using, but an
> index can be useful when you just have a vague idea of what you want to
> accomplish but not the OPS term for it.
>
> And yes, since I've already started ;-) I can make a first pass at
> producing the index of processors. I will have to leave it to you to
> finish it though, as I'm not sure what they all do!
>
> Thanks & regards
> Colin
>
> On Jan 6, 2006, at 5:15 PM, Alessandro Vernet wrote:
>
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > 1) If you know what you are looking for, Google provides a pretty good
> > index. If you are looking for the SQL processor documentation, then
> > search on Google for: site:www.orbeon.com sql processor. Sometimes it
> > is faster to just type what you are looking for then looking it up in
> > the documentation table of contents.
> >
> > 2) But I agree: we don't have a place where we just list all the
> > available processors. In the documentation, they are grouped by
> > categories under "Processors Reference". If you want to create a page
> > with the alphabetical list of processors, a one line description for
> > each one, and a link to the appropriate section of the documentation,
> > we would be happy to include this list in the documentation. For the
> > format to use, look at the XML files under doc/pages in the examples
> > resources.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On 1/6/06, Colin O'Brien <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> sometimes when I am getting into planning a new feature to add to our
> >> application, and I try one of the examples, and I look at the source,
> >> I'll see something, and I'll think, "that looks useful, I wonder what
> >> it's supposed to do, or what the full syntax is", or something like
> >> that. And then you have to go hunting. Sometimes the contents down the
> >> left of the docs web page will get you there, but there are many times
> >> when the association is not intuitive (or I'm just having a cross-eyed
> >> day!) and then I have to go grep the doc directory.
> >>
> >> It would seem it could be very useful to have an (or many) index into
> >> the doc.
> >> The thing I am most thinking of would be a list of processors.
> >> Thanks to grep and bbedit I produced a list of processors used in the
> >> examples, and there are over 90.
> >> Some I'd never heard of.
> >> Some of them will be very useful in the future.
> >> Seeing the list took me straight to something I needed (straight in as
> >> I knew it existed, I still had to grep the docs to find which page it
> >> was in and then use the contents to go to that page - you see how I
> >> think there is room for improvement ;-).
> >>
> >> Some of those new-to-me processors were also undocumented, but that's
> >> another story.
> >>
> >> Hope this makes sense
> >> thanks & regards
> >> Colin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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